Old 08-24-2008, 05:46 PM   #1
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Old 08-24-2008, 05:54 PM   #2
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Highway shoulders are a massive bore. I probably use "bore" because in some respects it reminds me of the post I just did in the Plowden thread. I just don't find the lower half interesting enough to be a good foreground. The composition is pretty basic in its forms the way some of the Plowden is.

But hey, you are being compared one on one with Plowden! Probably lots of others out there will like the shot!

What is interesting is that, if you make a horizontal of roughly the top half of the shot, actually a little less, you have a very nice shot. According to my one opinion.
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Old 08-24-2008, 05:58 PM   #3
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That highway is amazing.
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Old 08-24-2008, 06:40 PM   #4
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I like the how the highway moves your eye up the shot and how it curves under the bridge and out of sight. From that point your eye catches the back of the train which leads my eye to the right to the locomotives.
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What if I make the highway a smaller part of the image?
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I like the how the highway moves your eye up the shot and how it curves under the bridge and out of sight. From that point your eye catches the back of the train which leads my eye to the right to the locomotives.
I don't know, my eyes keep staring at the gravel.
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Old 08-24-2008, 09:26 PM   #7
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For me, the road isn't a good lead into the subject since the road's on the left and the units are on the right. That said though, I think it's a nice B&W conversion and effort...
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What if I make the highway a smaller part of the image?

I have trouble believing that it was that dark out at that time of day (after 0800).
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I have trouble believing that it was that dark out at that time of day (after 0800).
During this trip West I happened to cross a time zone. It was around 7am and the photo may be a darker then it was but that happens when you try to correctly expose the sky without using hdr.
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Doesn't really matter what time it is because we all can see the sun. With the sun that high, it would be full sun without the clouds of course.

Must have been one heck of a storm for the clouds to be that dark.
Even if you did exposure for the sky ACCURATELY, that makes the rest of the shot much darker than it really was. If the admins wanted to be strict, I would think they could boot the shot for not displaying the scene accurately.
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Go jump on someone elses back. I have always given you your space.
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I'm not getting on your back personally. You've just started a lot of threads about the rejects you've been getting. If you don't want honest opinions, then don't ask.
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I'm not getting on your back personally. You've just started a lot of threads about the rejects you've been getting. If you don't want honest opinions, then don't ask.
You didn't give me an honest opinion on the rejected photo.
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You didn't give me an honest opinion on the rejected photo.
I told you to kill it, or let it die as you put it. I would think it's pretty clear what my opinion of that shot is.
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I told you to kill it, or let it die as you put it. I would think it's pretty clear what my opinion of that shot is.
That was for my other photos in my other post.
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You didn't give me an honest opinion on the rejected photo.
I took Mike's comment as pointed sarcasm, honest and clear.
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Too many threads. Again, I think my opinion of this shot is pretty obvious. I think the train and everything else is too dark and that's why I asked about it.

We're just arguing semantics now. I never intended to offend you personally.

Also, to be clear, my remarks in the other forum are sarcastic. Welcome.
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What if I make the highway a smaller part of the image?
I was going to say put more highway in and take some of the sky out. Pfft. What do I know? This is certaily the better of the two!

My advice, though, upon reconsideration, is that if you do the highway shot again, stand further away from the edge of the road, get less grass and more road in the shot, and have the road lead more to the front of the train.


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Personally I like both photos.

I do agree that the gravel shoulder does atrach the eyes pulling away from the image. If I posted the pictures they would have been rejected for cloudy day, backlit, digital manipulation, high sun so kudos for getting the one accepted.
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Travis, I was in the same area, shooting some of the same trains on the same day! You didn't happen to see 3 guys in a rented car with Virginia plates did you? It's fun looking at your shots and seeing you are spots right after or right before we got to them. We got stuck in that hellaicous rainstorm that night and had to tie down in Moorecroft.
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I was going to say put more highway in and take some of the sky out. Pfft. What do I know? This is certaily the better of the two!

My advice, though, upon reconsideration, is that if you do the highway shot again, stand further away from the edge of the road, get less grass and more road in the shot, and have the road lead more to the front of the train.


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Old 08-25-2008, 05:09 AM   #22
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Travis, I was in the same area, shooting some of the same trains on the same day! You didn't happen to see 3 guys in a rented car with Virginia plates did you? It's fun looking at your shots and seeing you are spots right after or right before we got to them. We got stuck in that hellaicous rainstorm that night and had to tie down in Moorecroft.
No I did not. Did you see a white trailblazer with a dog in it? That is pretty cool that you were there at the same time I was. I was expecting to see a ton of railfans in the basin but I did not see one railfan my whole trip. Did you get some good shots?
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That highway is amazing.
Almost anything can be made interesting.
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Old 08-26-2008, 10:26 PM   #24
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The thing that jumps out at me in the original rejected photo is the road. I find the picture an interesting composition, and the road is a strong element - in this case, too strong. The picture ends up being about the road and not the train, I'm afraid, especially with the train so far in the background. And I agree that the revised shot ends up being too dark.

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