Old 09-15-2009, 02:02 AM   #1
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I'm trying to figure out a good way, compositionally, to get a photo something like this that will be acceptable for the site:



I don't think this one quite "works", though I do like the guy on the chain gang watching the train, while everyone else is looking up-field toward the camera.

What I wanted was a shot with the QB, center, and offensive line ready to go, and the train OOF in the background, but of course things never lined up that way.

4 trains came by while the game was in progress, and my son has four more games at this field this season, so I can try again.

Any thoughts?
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Old 09-15-2009, 02:05 AM   #2
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How about a stepstool - just enough elevation to get the train clear of the heads?

The depth of field works for me.
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Old 09-15-2009, 02:08 AM   #3
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I'd prefer the football guys OOF and the train sharp.

BTW, I hate those Schutt helmets (and the new-style Riddell ones too)...
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Old 09-15-2009, 02:49 AM   #4
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That would actually be a cool shot if your f stop was high (for depth of field) and the train was in focus too.

Love the "I'm only here because my dad makes me" look on some of the kids faces
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Also next time try to get the led locomotive in the train.
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Old 09-15-2009, 03:23 AM   #6
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Mike,

I'm going to move against the pack here and say, completely rethink your composition... that's not to say that the advice you've received was wrong. J is dead on about the ladder and stlegveo is dead on about the lead engine, and I agree with dlocher about a really deep depth of field, but what is missing from this shot for me is the inclusion of all of the elements.

Go take a look at O Winston Link's shots in which he included town elements. The train was as much a part of the image as the town element, and to my mind, that is what this needs. The train needs to be an equal.

For my taste, I would get much higher, and I would have the shot set up so that as the train passes you have the game in a 1/3rd of the frame, and the train in another 1/3rd (with the landscape in the last 1/3rd).

And everything would be in equal focus.

But that's just my opinion, which may have absolutely nothing with what you wanted to do, and if so, should be dismissed.
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Old 09-15-2009, 03:45 PM   #7
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Thanks for the all the ideas! I had forgotten about Link's style (sacrilege, I know). Didn't Link have a shot of kids playing baseball with the train in the background? I couldn't find it online, and may be mis-remembering.

I can get higher, as there are bleachers facing the field and the tracks, so I will certainly try that.

There are 4 games at this field every Sunday, so I may go early, and try different stuff during all the games instead of just my own kid's.

Now, if the trains and weather will only cooperate...

I will report back with my results for C&C.

Thanks!
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BTW, I hate those Schutt helmets (and the new-style Riddell ones too)...
LOL, I agree.
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Old 09-16-2009, 12:18 AM   #9
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I think your best bet will be a staged shot. Get your son and a friend to pose for you on a nice sunny day before or after practice. The further away from you they are the more you can zoom in, making the train more prominent in the frame. A low angle, with your son about to snap the ball, might make a cool image.

Alternatively, you could go the elevation route to gain separation, but I fear you might have a lot of dead space between the players and the train.
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I'd prefer the football guys OOF and the train sharp.

BTW, I hate those Schutt helmets (and the new-style Riddell ones too)...
They are comfy as hell though.
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