Old 05-28-2013, 02:22 AM   #1
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Default 765 Field shot | Bad Cropping

It was hit with size the first time (My fault). I can't seem to pin point the second reason, though...

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Old 05-28-2013, 02:40 AM   #2
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I would either crop it closer to 765, or try to include more of the train. Perhaps remove some of the empty space to the right and focus on the three locomotives. It just has a feeling of being off balance to me.
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Too much empty space on the right.
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Old 05-28-2013, 04:07 PM   #4
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You may want to fix the green/blue color cast to it too.
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Old 05-28-2013, 08:20 PM   #5
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Ugh.. when will RP admin find the value in adding a better less vague rejection?

Centered vertically top to bottom.

Other suggestions seem to have validity, as well.

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They could have thrown horrible lighting at it too.

(or your processing is terrible)
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Bad composition.
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Besides rmssch89, Holloran and Mitch, I didn't ask anyone else what was wrong.

I tried cropping out the right but still got hit with B-C....

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The original shot just seems too long, with too much space to the right of the train. But the re-working you posted above I think works out pretty well. I like the way the tree frames the front of the train, and how the grooves in the field lead my eye to the front of the lead engine.

For RP cropping standards, though, it is close to being centered vertically. Can you crop with a little less sky? And they may be reacting to the train being abruptly cut off on the left. No way to fix that, of course, but that could be at play here.
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It was hit with size the first time (My fault). I can't seem to pin point the second reason, though...

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Besides rmssch89, Holloran and Mitch, I didn't ask anyone else what was wrong.

I tried cropping out the right but still got hit with B-C....

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...73&key=9871492
Alrighty then.
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Now I think your problem is too much sky and foreground - not sure if you can fix that and keep the Conrail GEVO in the shot.

Also, as Troy mentioned, as you crop up on this, the lack of contrast and the lack of light on the wheels of the trailing units will become more noticeable.

Not sure if you can fix that.
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Now I think your problem is too much sky and foreground - not sure if you can fix that and keep the Conrail GEVO in the shot.

Also, as Troy mentioned, as you crop up on this, the lack of contrast and the lack of light on the wheels of the trailing units will become more noticeable.

Not sure if you can fix that.
I can rework anything but the cropping. I used my 18-55mm across a very large field. I can try to get it down to the absolute minimum for RP but it'll be hard.
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Lightbulb Some Thoughts.

These excursions are a pain to plan out where you are going to get shots from and then you can always get train F'd, cloud F'd or the whole thing is late, so the light changes in all your planned on spots.

Course, if you do get some good shots, then the reward is great and you feel good by being able to plan it all out logistically.

Another issue is that you need to think about what your shot will look like before you get out to a place trackside and attempt to get it - that way you can avoid spots that don't really work.

Were I at your shot above, I would have used a larger lens, course that would decrease the width of the photo, so if I wanted the teas kettle and the two GEVO's, then I would have shot this at more of an angle with a long lens.

On the flip side, assuming I could get nearer to the tracks and wanted a wide open shot like yours, I would have used a wider lens and perhaps found a field with the flowers, or ground cover if possible.

Either way, your light at this location is pretty high, and that is not your fault.

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These excursions are a pain to plan out where you are going to get shots from and then you can always get train F'd, cloud F'd or the whole thing is late, so the light changes in all your planned on spots.

Course, if you do get some good shots, then the reward is great and you feel good by being able to plan it all out logistically.

Another issue is that you need to think about what your shot will look like before you get out to a place trackside and attempt to get it - that way you can avoid spots that don't really work.

Were I at your shot above, I would have used a larger lens, course that would decrease the width of the photo, so if I wanted the teas kettle and the two GEVO's, then I would have shot this at more of an angle with a long lens.

On the flip side, assuming I could get nearer to the tracks and wanted a wide open shot like yours, I would have used a wider lens and perhaps found a field with the flowers, or ground cover if possible.

Either way, your light at this location is pretty high, and that is not your fault.
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My camera bag was stolen in Duncannon.

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Ya, well that sucks.

Sometimes you get the worm, and other times the worm gets you.

There will be other trains and other days.
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