Old 11-19-2013, 04:03 AM   #1
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Anybody want to expand on what the screener is saying?


what would be better for next time?


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Old 11-19-2013, 04:18 AM   #2
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You may want to appeal and tell them the train is being operated from the cabcar.
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Old 11-19-2013, 04:22 AM   #3
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You may want to appeal and tell them the train is being operated from the cabcar.
That shouldn't make a difference. There are oodles of going away glint shots on RP.

I can't quite put my finger on it, but something about this image just isn't "right." Not saying it's a bad photo, as I quite like it, but it needs something. Maybe some more contrast? The sun looks a little strong...if there's a way to tone that down, maybe the "bad angle" rejection won't come into play.
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Old 11-19-2013, 06:34 AM   #4
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Way too much sky.

And yes, it needs more contrast.
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Old 11-19-2013, 09:48 AM   #5
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Love the shot, had a go as I see it in PSE 7, histogram weak on the black side slightly, contrast up 22, shadow + 10, highlights -15 midtone contrast 15, unsharp mask 40/.5/0 recropped slightly.

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Old 11-19-2013, 10:02 AM   #6
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As other have mentioned, something is off with contrast and colors of the sun. Looks as if the photo was taken through a dirty window.
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Old 11-19-2013, 12:25 PM   #7
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It's awful noisy

Cab cars leading dont do much for me personally.
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Old 11-20-2013, 06:52 PM   #8
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http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...98&key=1727439

I've basically having a back and forth war with different screeners wanting different stuff. bad cropping, undersharpened, bad angle again. I don't know what to do at this point, I've appealed several times but none of them have been looked at.

With the photo i've been doing all the little changes they want in addition to what you reccomended, i've added contrast, boosted the reds of the sun, sharpened, toned down noise, and who knows what else.

Should i just give up at this point? One of them clearly doesn't want this picture on the website and it's really making my blood boil since (i think) it's a great photo and they seem to just not want an amateur posting stuff other than wedgies...

Okay, i'm done ranting. Let the flood of recommended changes and whatnot commence.

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Old 11-20-2013, 07:15 PM   #9
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That's a bull crap rejection. That's a really nice picture.
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Old 11-20-2013, 08:21 PM   #10
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I can't quite put my finger on it, but something about this image just isn't "right." Not saying it's a bad photo, as I quite like it, but it needs something. Maybe some more contrast? The sun looks a little strong...if there's a way to tone that down, maybe the "bad angle" rejection won't come into play.
My first reaction was that it looked like the shot was taken from a car... with the windows rolled up. (Editted to add that I wasn't the first to post something like this.) Also, the image looks soft.
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The thing that I would fix would be to crop that rock out in the lower right.
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The image quality looks really bad everywhere but the train. The grass and trees have no definition at all. Did you go bonkers with the noise reduction?

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Did you go bonkers with the noise reduction?

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Yeah, bonkers x10^99

Went back to the RAW and did some things different. Dialed down the sun, less noise reduction, tried to get rid of the "through a window" feel. I don't have a lens filter, so that could be that problem.
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Old 11-21-2013, 05:57 PM   #14
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I don't have a lens filter, so that could be that problem.
For what purpose would the lens filter be used?
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Three ideas -

(1) Crop the right side to get rid of the rock.

Sometimes rocks work, but not parts of a rock.

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(2) Selectively choose the white area of the sun and dial down the brightness - it is overpowering.

(3) If you know how HDR / Tone Map the image and bring the texture of the clouds out.

This could look real good.
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