Old 12-18-2008, 02:14 AM   #1
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One again time to entertain ourselves by sharing shots with a common theme. This time, instead of common content, I am going with common technology. So anything that is wider than 17mm on a crop sensor or 28mm on a full frame sensor fits. Actually, I am tempted to restrict to wider than 24mm full frame as 24 is not that uncommon in landscape type shots. So make it wider than 16mm on a crop sensor.

First up, one reason why one goes wiiide, to get unusual commpositions:
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Of course, one can also go wide just to get a bit more in the frame:
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Finally, one can go wide to get waaay more in the frame. This one is an all-time favorite RP shot:
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I've got an ultra-wide lens but have yet to get a nice railroad shot out of it. The one I have on RP is actually well cropped and so no longer fits within the guidelines above.
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Old 12-18-2008, 04:17 AM   #2
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I've remembered that Dan Putz (hasn't uploaded in a while but used to be a regular on RP) made use of the 10-22.

I'm not a big fan of the first one, but interesting to contemplate

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this one is simpler but works better for me

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whereas this one I love; don't know why he didn't put it on RP

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Old 12-18-2008, 06:02 AM   #3
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This was taken with a Canon 16-35mm 2.8L II at 16mm on full frame


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Old 12-18-2008, 04:11 PM   #4
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That shot reminds me of this shot in that they both have blurred noses:

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And both were at 1/320s. I would think that would be enough to stop action, but is that just a drawback of shooting utra wide?

This ultra ride stuck out to me:
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Old 12-18-2008, 04:22 PM   #5
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My only ultra-wide, 17mm on full frame:

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I'm not a big fan of ultra-wide shots up close. The distorted nose of a loco bugs me too much. If I take that kind of shot at all, I spend a little time in photoshop "fixing" it. The shot above even required some distortion correction.
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Old 12-18-2008, 04:26 PM   #6
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That shot reminds me of this shot in that they both have blurred noses:

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And both were at 1/320s. I would think that would be enough to stop action, but is that just a drawback of shooting utra wide?
I suspect that, at ultra-wide, the movement of a train across the frame is faster than usual, especially given that part of it is pretty close to the camera, so you need a faster shutter speed to freeze it.

Think of the difference between being perpendicular to an engine and shooting at 200mm and at 20mm. In the former, if the train moves 1 ft, it doesn't move far across the frame (given how far back you are to get the entire thing to fit) whereas if you are at 20mm you are standing a few yards from the engine and a 1 ft movement is significant.

Can't say I have worked that out in detail but I suspect that is the answer.
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What catches my eye is that in that shot, like the NS/stump shot, the wide angle distortion creates a shark nose.
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Old 12-18-2008, 04:31 PM   #7
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What catches my eye is that in that shot, like the NS/stump shot, the wide angle distortion creates a shark nose.
That happens when you try to over-correct. Usually the distortion makes the nose lean backwards.
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Old 12-18-2008, 04:34 PM   #8
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I didn't have exif data for all of these so I just eye balled them.



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I didn't have exif data for all of these so I just eye balled them.
Lots of those don't look particularly wide. I checked four, three had EXIF, all three were 17-18 on crop sensor; you have a lousy eyeball.
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Lots of those don't look particularly wide. I checked four, three had EXIF, all three were 17-18 on crop sensor; you have a lousy eyeball.
I thought you asked for 17mm or less on a crop sensor?
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I thought you asked for 17mm or less on a crop sensor?
Wider than 17mm. My mistake.
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Old 12-18-2008, 06:14 PM   #12
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I thought you asked for 17mm or less on a crop sensor?
I'm guessing someone had issues with word problems in math:

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So make it wider than 16mm on a crop sensor.


To be fair though...J rambled enough in his initial post about what's wide enough before settling to confuse the masses!
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To be fair though...J rambled enough in his initial post about what's wide enough before settling to confuse the masses!
Sad but true, sigh.

Maybe I should have said "wider than the lenses that most of us use routinely."
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Old 12-18-2008, 06:23 PM   #14
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Just remembered, I do have an ultra-wide on RP, albeit at 14mm on crop it is just a bit wider than the cutoff.

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But it does not really have an ultra-wide "look."
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Old 12-18-2008, 07:38 PM   #15
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I have loads of shots at 24mm (Full frame), but I see they don't count according to Janusz's rules.

I bought a new Canon 16-35mm f2.8 L in October. I tried it out for the first time at the National Railway Museum on my Canon 5D. They are all tight shots, there's no way you could get the shots with anything less wide.
I've still to try the exterior shots of the wide open spaces (in England???!).

Anyway, here they are.....
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A few of my favorite wide-angle shots from the Canon EFS 10-22.

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Snooooooooooot!

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If a Big if there shot the right way a supper wide look real good, tilt up to much or to closes they fall a part, I dumped my 12-24 for a 1.4TC
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Quote:
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That shot reminds me of this shot in that they both have blurred noses:

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And both were at 1/320s. I would think that would be enough to stop action, but is that just a drawback of shooting utra wide?

This ultra ride stuck out to me:
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I saw this thread and thought "Is this gallery devoted to me?"
Anyways, yeah, 1/320 isn't enough to stop a close loco at 10mm. That's one of the reasons why I'm buying a 5D Mark II at a 16-35, boost up the ISO and get the shot. I've had a steep learning curve with low light photos and that lens...I had some massive fail at 1/60.
Anyways, here are a couple shots that worked pretty well with the ultra-wide, even if the lighting wasn't prime.
I really like the way I was able to showcase the valley in this one:
Image © Matthew Hicks
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I was actually wishing for a 9mm lens here:
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What a coincidence! I have the 'same' shot except true UWA!
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Here's mine Canon 15mm fisheye on a 5D http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=250220
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I can only go down to 17mm on a 1.6 sensor but here is one of mine anyway.

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Tom Mugnano has a 10-22 which has enabled him to get some interesting views.

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I can only go down to 17mm on a 1.6 sensor but here is one of mine anyway.

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Caption says Memorial Day, date given is September 1, 2008.
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Caption says Memorial Day, date given is September 1, 2008.

You are correct. The caption should read Labor Day. I guess I just wanted it to be the beginning of summer instead of the end when I wrote that.
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I am surprised that Joe has not been on this thread yet, though appreciate that he other things to occupy his mind right now

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The widest I can go is 18mm...

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