Old 12-16-2010, 07:52 PM   #1
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Looking for tips or hints on improving this image. Not sure why they though this was backlit. The sun was behind the camera.

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Old 12-16-2010, 08:00 PM   #2
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Hit up for dark noise if your that close best have the sun behind you not to the side and less clouds.

If you're going to 3/4 they want it lit better and B&W not helping it.
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Old 12-16-2010, 08:13 PM   #3
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Not sure why they though this was backlit. The sun was behind the camera.
Half nose lit and the only bit of scenery is a common crossing signal.
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It's obvious to me that the only reason you even attempted to submit this picture in B&W is because you tried in color and got the same rejection. Converting to B&W and selectively pegging the levels on the nose to kind of mask the root cause isn't going to work. Been there, tried that (back after I first joined)...
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Old 12-16-2010, 08:27 PM   #5
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Troy. I submitted in B&W first. Thanks for your helpful suggestion.
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Old 12-16-2010, 08:38 PM   #6
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Looking for tips or hints on improving this image. Not sure why they though this was backlit. The sun was behind the camera.

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http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...d=885854&key=0
Hi John,

The Screeners on RP often hit the "backlit" rejection button on wedge-type shots of common locomotives if they believe the lighting isn't perfect. In this case, shadows on the ground show the subject to be side-lit. I think they are saying they'd like equivalent light on the nose and the sun angle chosen here doesn't do it. Obviously, the lighting in this shot isn't terrible, it's just that RP is bombarded by tons of diesel wedgies every day, so they elect to take only the best lit ones. I think you've probably done as much as you can do to lighten the shadows without overprocessing the shot, but RP is just saying: "hey, we've got shots in the queue with better light".

WRT the B&W situation....and mind you, I'm NOT a diesel-shooter.....I personally don't think that the UP paint scheme works well in B&W. There are too many "lights" and not enough "darks" in an image like this to make it a snappy B&W. With UP, I'd go color next time. Just a thought.
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Troy. I submitted in B&W first. Thanks for your helpful suggestion.
My assumption was wrong, sorry. I still dont think it works very well in B&W.
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Norfolk Southern is much better in black and white. UP has too bright of colors. It's a pretty decent photo, just not for here.
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Everyone is evaluating the shot as is, when the processing is pretty bad. John, take a look at your histogram, all pushed up to the right, hence no contrast and no blacks in the shot. The attached represents just a minute's work (in levels, push the middle slider over a LOT, then a bit of brightness/contrast adjustment), so I won't claim it is right, but it gives you a sense of what can be done.

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