Old 06-15-2010, 06:15 PM   #1
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Good afternoon (Or Good Morning for those out west)

I would welcome some input for a pair of rejections that were dinged for "Bad Angle". I haven't had this reason before. For those who haven't had it, the rejection text reads "The angle from which the image was composed is poor. This can include extreme angles below or above the subject, uninteresting angles on roster shots, and images in which the train is going away from the viewer."

The shots aren't taken from an extreme angle above or below. The are not roster shots. They aren't going away shots.

If the screener was unhappy with the composition or felt the leg of the signal bridge detracted from the photos, I could live with that. But I just don't get the "Bad Angle" rejection.

They aren't the most amazing or original shots and I can live with them not being in the database. I'm just trying to understand the rejection reason.

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Old 06-15-2010, 06:20 PM   #2
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The only thing I can figure is that the train itself is minimized by the angle you shot. It's basically an engine nose, with lacking detail behind it. I wouldn't exactly call it a reason for rejection, but it's all I can come up with.

Maybe you could include some more of the frame on top of the first shot too?

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Old 06-15-2010, 08:08 PM   #3
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I'm not seeing Bad Angle on them as much as Bad Cropping. They're too tight. But I believe the BA may come in because there is an odd look to the train which I am guessing is coming from shooting a telephoto from a distance with a train in a curve.
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Shooting more from the left (closer to the south end of the bridge) would have made for a better angle showing more of the side of the train, but then would also draw more attention to the high sun. Returning in September or October would make for better light. Oh, and get a better tour guide! That guy you had was an idiot!

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Maybe too tight, but I love the heat distortion!
I personally have had a problem with those trying to tell us to turn railroad photography into an "art form." It's fine for them to do so, I welcome it in fact, but what I do have a problem with is that the practitioners of the more "arty" shots, I have found, tend to look down their nose's at others who are shooting more "mundane" shots.
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I agree with the previous posters. Unfortunately, you've cropped the locomotive too tight at the bottom and cars too tight at the top. They just need a bit more room to breathe; I'd say about three times the amount of space you've allocated in the first example.
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