Old 04-23-2013, 08:04 AM   #1
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I got the dreaded PEQ on this one. I was looking over the conductor's shoulder while in the cab car during a meet between two GO Trains.

I was trying to capture the profile of a railroader in action. So what do you think. Is this workable or should I scrap it? All comments welcome - good, bad and ugly!

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Old 04-23-2013, 01:36 PM   #2
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Judging by the angle of his cap and neck, it looks like maybe you captured the profile of a railroader not in action, aka snoozing!
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Old 04-23-2013, 01:37 PM   #3
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Or looking down at his phone.
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Old 04-23-2013, 02:58 PM   #4
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I believe that's why they gave it a PEQ, because it appears he is, mentioned above, looking down. Save the railroader some heart ache and put this one in your personal collection.
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I believe that's why they gave it a PEQ, because it appears he is, mentioned above, looking down. Save the railroader some heart ache and put this one in your personal collection.
But he could be looking down for an infinite number of reasons. What heartache would you be referring to?
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Old 04-23-2013, 08:22 PM   #6
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But he could be looking down for an infinite number of reasons. What heartache would you be referring to?
Agreed. Considering you can't see below his shoulders, who's to say he's not checking the timetable, or writing something on the desk. The conductor is not required to be looking straight ahead every second of every trip. That's the engineer's job.

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...I like it....
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We can argue over what he's doing, but I think the photo would work much better if he's looking up.

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The conductor (if that's what they're even called anymore - not something like "customer service representative ") is not even required to be in that seat. Most of the time that seat is empty. Probably just an off-duty employee hitching a ride back to Mimico. What he is doing is irrelevant, but Loyd does have a point.
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I apologize for offering an opinion to someone who asked for it. I mean, none of us really know why it was given PEQ. I offered one plausible explanation. And I never said he was doing something wrong by looking down. Again, none of us know why he's looking down. But to some people, the appearance of not doing the right thing could, in some cases, be as bad as not doing the right thing.

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I think the tinted glass makes the shot look funky. A grayscale image might work. As for his gaze---that's all total speculation. He's going into the sun (hidden from view of the camera), so I'm sure he is using the bill of his cap to knock out some of the glare, since I don't see a visor.

Overall, though, I like it. Maybe the problem is his head is unlevel....
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I appreciate everyone's comments. In case anyone was curious, my attempt to repeal the rejection was denied. Oh well. At least a few folks on here were able to see the shot a few times before it gets filed away in that dusty old Logan tray. Oh wait... That's only what I did with slides!

Personally I still like the shot. Regardless of where his eyes are or how unlevel his head is! (Loved that Ron!)

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I appreciate everyone's comments. In case anyone was curious, my attempt to repeal the rejection was denied.
Well, no wonder, you were too aggressive, telling admin they had to repeal their decision! That's too pushy!

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