Old 02-21-2021, 04:48 PM   #1
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Here's one I quite wish the screeners would have let slide. Oh well, the rules are the rules, I guess. Not too many photos from a perspective such as this on RP.

https://www.railpictures.net/viewrej...49&key=8406451

BTW, the train was 11,751 ft long.
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Old 02-21-2021, 07:56 PM   #2
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Rejection noted aside, maybe earlier shot cropped without the cut-off pole would make it attractive enough to accept ? They don't have a cut-off pole rejection so use the Cloudy rejection. As is that pole is a killer plus the 1111 is about to run off the frame, way too close for me.

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Old 02-21-2021, 08:15 PM   #3
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Rejection noted aside, maybe earlier shot cropped without the cut-off pole would make it attractive enough to accept ? They don't have a cut-off pole rejection so use the Cloudy rejection. As is that pole is a killer plus the 1111 is about to run off the frame, way too close for me.

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Providing you are referring to the top of the power pole - Those poles are quite tall, and one would need to shoot quite a bit wider to include the entirety of it. Wide enough, in fact, to possibly risk a poor framing rejection (centered train).

Perhaps a better option would be to remove they pole completely?

If both of your points were the screener’s issue, would they not ding it with a poor composition rejection? After all, they can also throw more than one reason for rejection, if needed (I’ve seen this happen to one photo).

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Providing you are referring to the top of the power pole - Those poles are quite tall, and one would need to shoot quite a bit wider to include the entirety of it. Wide enough, in fact, to possibly risk a poor framing rejection (centered train).

Perhaps a better option would be to remove they pole completely?

If both of your points were the screener’s issue, would they not ding it with a poor composition rejection? After all, they can also throw more than one reason for rejection, if needed (I’ve seen this happen to one photo).

Thanks for your constructive feedback!
Removing would be a large task. Assuming you were clicking away as train approached an earlier frame would be one with the 1111 maybe a little over the little boardwalk then a crop would be just before the pole. Assuming the image shown is not a big crop already a crop should be of good quality. I am assuming you already cropped somewhat so could make it work

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Old 02-21-2021, 09:26 PM   #5
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Bob,

Unfortunately, I do not have a frame before this one. I had taken a few from a straight on angle, then moved for a side shot. There is hardly any crop applied. Just a touch to straighten/balance the photo. Keep in mind, this photo was shot at 1050 mm.

For what it's worth, I do have another shot, taken a few seconds later at 420 mm. The power pole is still cut off, and there are two additional power poles in frame. Of course, the train is, perhaps, another 100 yds east. These aren't your ordinary power poles. The are very tall, high voltage transmission towers, less than a mile from a big sub-station..

Now, that said, I've done a rough job of removing the pole. Also, I've cropped to a 7x5 vs 3x2. Do you think this would have a better chance of being satisfactory?

Edit: Oops! I used a private link to embed the photo. Should show up now.


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I admit not noting that it was much of a zoom and quality can be a problem for the more observant. I'd put it on the side for a while, maybe read the other thread what can happen with too many rejections in a row.

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Thanks, Bob. Yeah, I'm inclined to think they'd likely reject it again anyway. Seems any shot of newer power on a Class I or Class II regional taken on a cloudy day is objectionable. Unless the setting is wildly out of the ordinary. Oh well.
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I like ot. It needs about .5% CCW rotation. I'd love to have been able to see more of he side of the locomotive.
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Agree with Joe on needing a bit of rotation, doesn't look quite level to me (looking at the signals especially). Overall, it seems dark/underexposed. The cloudy shots that seem to be accepted are often ones that don't look quite as dark and dreary.
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Thanks, fellas. In regards to rotation, perhaps it could use a little? I tried to balance it, using an assortment of different objects in frame - power pole, signals, etc. Just to clarify, Joe, does it need to go CCW or CW? The signals actually lean left slightly (perhaps 0.3°).

I'll probably reshoot the location another morning when it's sunny and standard power.

Also, since you mention more of a side view, I'll post one other photo here. Previously, I had considered submitting it, but decided not to when the Fairfax photo was rejected. Same locomotive, same cloudy day, after all. Anyway, here it is. Taken in Bertram, IA.



Do you guys think this actually has a chance? Or should I just keep the 1111 series for other platforms?

Thanks again. All feedback welcome. I'm only a few months into the RPs experience

Edit: Hopefully that photo isn't showing too large. It's a small version, but sized for submission.

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Thanks, fellas. In regards to rotation, perhaps it could use a little? I tried to balance it, using an assortment of different objects in frame - power pole, signals, etc. Just to clarify, Joe, does it need to go CCW or CW? The signals actually lean left slightly (perhaps 0.3°).
To me it looks to be leaning slightly to the left, so would rotate CW.

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Also, since you mention more of a side view, I'll post one other photo here. Previously, I had considered submitting it, but decided not to when the Fairfax photo was rejected. Same locomotive, same cloudy day, after all. Anyway, here it is. Taken in Bertram, IA.



Do you guys think this actually has a chance? Or should I just keep the 1111 series for other platforms?
I think this shot looks a lot more promising, but I'd still try and brighten it up a bit more before submitting.
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Joseph is right and I was wrong. It needs a slight CW rotation. I get so many "leaning right" rejections, I typed CCW out of habit. SMH
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I have nothing to add that hasn't already been said other than it is a really neat shot. Can really see the compression by looking at the cross ties.

I like it.

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Here's one I quite wish the screeners would have let slide. Oh well, the rules are the rules, I guess. Not too many photos from a perspective such as this on RP.

https://www.railpictures.net/viewrej...49&key=8406451

BTW, the train was 11,751 ft long.
Based on your caption, and your remarks here, this photo's raison d'etre is the "unique focal length" at which it was taken. You went to great effort to describe all the equipment, without ever stipulating said focal length.
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Based on your caption, and your remarks here, this photo's raison d'etre is the "unique focal length" at which it was taken. You went to great effort to describe all the equipment, without ever stipulating said focal length.
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In a reply to me he said 420mm.

There was a really neat followup shot he threw out that has vanished so the whole thread is a little hosed. The followup was a little above and wide on the 1111 with the train strung out around the curve which for me was much better.

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