Old 09-27-2010, 08:46 PM   #1
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Cool help with a reject

What are your thoughts? Is it worth working on or just pitching.

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Old 09-27-2010, 08:54 PM   #2
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What is it supposed to be? A pan shot? A roster shot? A grab shot? It's not RP material by a mile.
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Old 09-27-2010, 09:01 PM   #3
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Don't take this personally, but you really should stop giving advice to other people in the forums until you get better at this. If you are still submitting stuff like this, you aren't there yet.
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Don't take this personally, but you really should stop giving advice to other people in the forums until you get better at this. If you are still submitting stuff like this, you aren't there yet.
I guess your right. I will be more picky on what I upload. Thanks for the advise Troy.
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We all think are stuff is good enough or should be good enough, it is hard to look at our own with an unprejidicual eye (excuse the spelling).
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We all think are stuff is good enough or should be good enough, it is hard to look at our own with an unprejidicual eye (excuse the spelling).
Very true. I know I do my fair share of it.
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Don't take this personally, but you really should stop giving advice to other people in the forums until you get better at this. If you are still submitting stuff like this, you aren't there yet.
Everyone seems to be agreeing with you these days, Troy! I mise well do the same!

Joking aside, very good advice. I didn't find this approach to be hateful, but instead helpful. You don't want to spread bad advice to others, rather it's intentional or not.

I would suggest just reading what others post and think before posting yourself.

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Everyone seems to be agreeing with you these days, Troy! I mise well do the same!

Joking aside, very good advice. I didn't find this approach to be hateful, but instead helpful. You don't want to spread bad advice to others, rather it's intentional or not.

I would suggest just reading what others post and think before posting yourself.

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Troy is a changed man You guys are right and I will try to apply that to my posting career as best I can. Thanks Joe for the photo comment and thanks to the other guys for the tips on posting.
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Don't take this personally, but you really should stop giving advice to other people in the forums until you get better at this. If you are still submitting stuff like this, you aren't there yet.
I have been enjoying TROY 2.0, but I am confused by this statement and the acceptance further...

Barnstormer simply asked a legitimate question here so why is the answer "don't give advice"? I thought that was directed at Joe but apparently not.

I like the shot - lot's of potential and a good first run.

There is nothing, in my opinion, wrong with the angle. I have a few nearly identical angles - even on RP. Sure, it's not parallel but as is it gives a good sense of speed with the rear blurred.

I think the composition is the main issue - the first thing I took note of was that you had the subject completely centered. A no-no on RP! Try to shift the subject up or down to stick to the rule of thirds.

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Is it a pan shot? If so, I don't think it's as bad as everyone is making it out to be... the composition is a little awkward, and I would like to see more blur in the background and more sharpening applied to the front of the loco, but great color! That UP yellow just pops in this shot!
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I have been enjoying TROY 2.0, but I am confused by this statement and the acceptance further...

Barnstormer simply asked a legitimate question here so why is the answer "don't give advice"? I thought that was directed at Joe but apparently not.

I like the shot - lot's of potential and a good first run.

There is nothing, in my opinion, wrong with the angle. I have a few nearly identical angles - even on RP. Sure, it's not parallel but as is it gives a good sense of speed with the rear blurred.

I think the composition is the main issue - the first thing I took note of was that you had the subject completely centered. A no-no on RP! Try to shift the subject up or down to stick to the rule of thirds.

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Thank you so much for the encouraging words, Mitch. I know I am still pretty much a beginner but I really wanted to know what I could do to improve this shot. I never said I was a good photographer. Mitch you are really the one that knows how to shoot pan shots so your words are backed up by your pics. Thanks again and I might still try to improve this shot.

Also thank you diamond for the thoughts as well.
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Is it a pan shot? If so, I don't think it's as bad as everyone is making it out to be... the composition is a little awkward, and I would like to see more blur in the background and more sharpening applied to the front of the loco, but great color! That UP yellow just pops in this shot!
I agree. This shot is better than that photochopped turd discussed on the forum a while back that's still in the database, blurred horn and all..

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A good arguement could be made that giving advice and looking at shots by other photogs who are asking for advice could make someone a better shooter if they then turned that critical eyeon their own shots. Besides, I think we know when we need to tell a poster when not to listen to advice given by someone.
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It was directed at Barnstormer. I think Joe gave all the advice necessary on the shot.
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Old 09-28-2010, 12:11 PM   #15
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I guess your right. I will be more picky on what I upload. Thanks for the advise Troy.
What's not right is a shadow the back end is blurry do to you being to close, To much camera swing showing up! It's hard to get right but a longer lens and being back a way's helps. You won't get them all on as someone will see something you don't, That takes time.
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