Old 06-27-2013, 03:12 AM   #1
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I've only been shooting trains for 6 weeks now. My question to the group is regarding use of flash (at night). Is it "OK" when shooting a moving train? I'm not asking technically, that's another discussion. I'm more concerned with freaking out an unsuspecting crew. I realize of course they can't "go off the tracks" but I kind of think in these security conscious times it could be disconcerting.

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Old 06-27-2013, 10:49 AM   #2
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I think the consensus here is that it dont matter what the crews think. At least it seems that way.

If you think about it, a lot of time it does not matter because for the most part you will be illuminating the train / locomotive from the side, or at least at an angle, not necessarily from the front or ahead of them, so I dont think it would really be "blinding", may startle them to some degree. But I would imagine most of them are used to it, at least in some areas where it happens a lot.

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Old 06-27-2013, 10:57 AM   #3
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Ed, if you mean the type of flash equipment used by people like Gary Knapp, Sean Hoyden and others, I've never heard any crew members say they were blinded, frightened or in any way barely noticed the flashes. Most of those guys also send off a "warning flash" as the train approaches. If you mean the flash on top of your camera, they don't even see it and it does nothing to stop a moving train anyway.
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From what I've gathered from railroading friends I've flashed or helped flash, it doesn't bother them. They are fine with it, and are very interested in seeing the end result. When it's done properly, there is only 1 or 2 flashes in the sight path for the crew. There is no legal mandate concerning the use of flashes for this type of photography.

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Consensus appears to be "no big deal."

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Old 06-28-2013, 08:26 AM   #6
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It also very much depends on what you're shooting.

Taking photos of suburban trains arriving at a station, for example, is certainly not a good idea (the driver is trying to concentrate on stopping points, where pax are standing [ie: too close, making sure no-one is going to jump etc.]).

However, freight trains, especially if you're off to the side, not pointing in the eye line etc of the crew, it shouldn't make much difference.
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Excellent point Peter
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Funny this has been raised as here in the UK this is a very big no, goes against the (health and safety paranoia) "enthusiast guidelines" and often produces major kick offs on railfan forums between drivers and photographers. And thats without anyone ever attempting (that I've seen) the big flash scenes that we see on rp.net.
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Funny this has been raised as here in the UK this is a very big no, goes against the (health and safety paranoia) "enthusiast guidelines" and often produces major kick offs on railfan forums between drivers and photographers. And thats without anyone ever attempting (that I've seen) the big flash scenes that we see on rp.net.
Someone just needs to do it to show everyone how wrong they are.
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Funny this has been raised as here in the UK this is a very big no, goes against the (health and safety paranoia) "enthusiast guidelines" and often produces major kick offs on railfan forums between drivers and photographers. And thats without anyone ever attempting (that I've seen) the big flash scenes that we see on rp.net.
That figures, the limeys dont really have freedoms
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That figures, the limeys dont really have freedoms
Tell us about your many visits to and time getting to know Great Britain, Troy.
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