Old 03-07-2007, 09:40 PM   #1
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So, I got this rejection...and I don't know what to do with it. It got canned for bad cropping, but I really can't think for the life of me where to go from here. The image is full frame(i.e. no cropping whatsoever), and the center of interest is placed on the bottom intersection of thirds. Too much dead space perhaps?
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Old 03-07-2007, 10:18 PM   #2
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There is a ton of dead, overblown sky in the top half of the picture. Everything else is in the bottom half. The idea is OK, but probably should have been composed differently, somehow leaving out most of that sky.
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Old 03-07-2007, 11:24 PM   #3
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Not that it applies to the reject of "bad cropping" or probably reality, but my initial reaction was that the image was fake. Further inspection led me to realize that dirt on the mirror looked like pixelation makign it look like a bad photoshop. Other than my first impression great shot!
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Old 03-07-2007, 11:34 PM   #4
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What about a much tighter crop...to just above the horizon?? Don't lose anything from the bottom, crop from the top & left. I like the shot...clever concept.
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Old 03-07-2007, 11:48 PM   #5
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A tighter crop helps, but then it will really show the dirt on the mirror. I'd give this one an "A" for the idea and go back and try it again, with a little Windex!

The two different angles for the track sort of gave me eye strain, so I leveled the shot but I think it made it less interesting. You might want to try adjusting the mirror angle, your camera position and trying it a bunch of times to find what really works. Unless it's a nice sunny day, go for a tight crop.

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That's an awesome idea. I've tried it shooting from the drivers side to the passengers side, but can never gt the focus right. Any ideas? I've sen one done like this and the "Subjects ar closer than they appear" is great!


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Old 03-08-2007, 03:20 AM   #7
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I like the idea, though you really should clean the mirror first! Another possibility is cropping the picture so that it only shows the mirror.

HERE is a similar picture that I took last year, despite cleaning the mirror first there are still visible marks on it.
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Old 03-09-2007, 05:21 PM   #8
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I suppose you have to be very careful how you park the car and how you angle it. Consider this --

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreject.php?id=346826

I don't know if there is anything I could have done in this shot to get it in the database. Rejected for unlevel horizon, appealed seeing the horizion was level. Look at the mirror and the background stuff. Rejected again with the note --

"Sorry... the train is the subject of the photo, not the background behind the mirror."

I hate it when they're right.

There were a lot of typical 3/4 wedgies that got in at the same time this shot, which is kinda an atypical 3/4 wedgie got the heave ho.

Never can have too many wedgies.

But thanks for the idea, Mike. It's something I definitely hope to master.


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I went from "How dare they?" to "Well... maybe they have a point" to "I hate when they'r right" to recropping the picture all within the same post.

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Old 03-09-2007, 05:45 PM   #10
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Nice!

There will now be a flood of mirror shots uploaded to RP...

One thing would have been neat, to have a lead unit with a logo on the front. Instead of CSX, it would be XSC (well, not quite, but I can't reverse letters in this editor). FSNB?
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