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Some may have noticed that I have just spent a couple of weeks in the States photographing in and around Colorado, Utah and Wyoming. I had a great time and met a lot of interesting and friendly people along the way. I now have to plan my next visit and as time is marching on and I am not getting any younger I am looking to pay a visit to New England in the Fall. Can any of you out there give me some ideas as to where to go and what to see please? I do not know the Eastern states at all. As a child in the UK I was raised on TV westerns so that is where I went. Need to expand my horizons so can anyone help please? Many thanks Dave
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Link to your pics? I don't see a "baggydave" on the photographer list.
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Jim, what does it matter where his shots are? He is asking for advice!

Dave, New England is still a good bit of territory. What are you looking for? Mainline freight? Urban? Commuter, rural shortline? History vs contemporary? Tourist, steam? Your question is ill-defined and all one can do is throw darts at a very large board.
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Baggydave is user name, I'm davehewitt on RP. I like pictures with scenery and grand vistas. I like frieght mainly though am not averse to Amtrak. Steam would be good if on offer and tourist lines are always interesting. Hope that's made the darts larger or the board smaller.
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Baggydave is user name, I'm davehewitt on RP. I like pictures with scenery and grand vistas. I like frieght mainly though am not averse to Amtrak. Steam would be good if on offer and tourist lines are always interesting. Hope that's made the darts larger or the board smaller.
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Jim, what does it matter where his shots are? He is asking for advice!
Ummm....because I'd like to view the photos from his trip?

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Thanks, Dave. I'm with you on the scenery and grand vistas thing.
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I think West Virginia in the Fall would fit the bill nicely. We have scenery, vistas, Fall color, and steam.

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Dave, it might be old hat to the natives but the Hudson River in NY state impressed me on my first trip to the area. It's easily accessible, stunning views and regular passenger trains (on the Eastern bank) mean it's busy. Definitely worth a visit, especially as you'll more than likely fly into NY.
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A few things to keep in mind:
Very light density on many freight-only lines. My strategy was usually to find a train and stay with it for half a day.
New England in the fall means hordes of autumn-leaf seeking tourists. Reserve early!
Don't forget non-rail attractions. Bar Harbor and Acadia National Park are arguably the crown jewels of New England.

Have a great visit!
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Jim, I found it odd that you didn't say something like "Dave, I have no thoughts on the question you posed, but I would like to see your pictures."

A much more serious omission, in my view, than the minor grammar/spelling mistakes that you feel an urge to address in these forums from time to time.
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Jim, I found it odd that you didn't say something like "Dave, I have no thoughts on the question you posed, but I would like to see your pictures."

A much more serious omission, in my view, than the minor grammar/spelling mistakes that you feel an urge to address in these forums from time to time.
You're really blowing my original comment to Dave out of proportion. His opening comment was regarding "some" noticing that he spent a few weeks photographing in the States (and his mention of Colorado especially interested me, since that has recently become my favorite state to shoot in). Since I didn't realize "baggydave" was Dave Hewitt, I wanted to see a link so I could appreciate what he captured here on his visit. And come to find out, I had seen his gorge shot (prior to this thread) and loved it.

Really not much else to explain.
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West Virginia and NW Virginia would be my vote. You have limitless opportunities and most of the Class 1 lines have fair volume. One thing with New England, it's my understanding you will be sitting around all day for one train, most of the RR's are shortlines or regionals (Guilford or whatever they call themselves these days) and dont run a ton of trains.

Plus most New England states have oppressive gun laws and hence lack freedom
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I understood Jim perfectly well, no need to blow his question out of proportion.
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So many posts trying to talk Dave out of beautiful New England!

Over the years I've had FAR more problems in Appalachia with er, (how can I put this nicely?) "hill folk".
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I didn't blow anything out of proportion, just initially found it odd. I should have put an emoticon after the last sentence of my second post, which was solely intended to guff you a bit, given that you guff others about meaningless grammar/spelling junk. That would have helped convey the right tone.

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So many posts trying to talk Dave out of beautiful New England!

Over the years I've had FAR more problems in Appalachia with er, (how can I put this nicely?) "hill folk".
We hate out of state people because they usually degrade us with those bullshit stereotypes and implications.

I'd (along with several other WV photographers) would be happy to escort Dave around, which would reduce his vulnerability from the terrors that walk the mountains

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Thanks for all the replies. I have plenty to ponder. I do intend to go to New England for the Fall but I have also a desire to visit some of the Civil War battlefields so that is a trip for 2015. Should that take place then I will definitely take Lloyd up on his offer to show me around. I do so get fed up finding great places to photograph trains only to wait for hours before one comes along, if it ever does. I don't have a scanner and wouldn't know how to use one if I did so I have to find a train and then chase it as miningcamper says he does. This last trip was amazing. I spent 3 days close to Glenwood Springs and saw about 1 train a day and in Cheyenne there was a train every 5 minutes! This is the sort of info I need so as not to waste the precious 14 days at my disposal.
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So many posts trying to talk Dave out of beautiful New England!

Over the years I've had FAR more problems in Appalachia with er, (how can I put this nicely?) "hill folk".
I've lived here for 18 years and have yet to have "problems" with "hill folk" and I've visited plenty corners of West Virginia and neighboring Appalachia. There's a ton of talent (photographically) in this region (i.e. Ron Flanary, Samuel Phillips, Loyd Lowry, etc.) who I would imagine agree!

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The 2 worst problems I refer to were very, very serious, unexpected and unprovoked. When it happens twice in a relatively small area (VA/WV), am I wrong to feel a bit less safe there?
At least be aware that you are out with expensive gear in areas that are lightly patrolled if at all.
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The 2 worst problems I refer to were very, very serious, unexpected and unprovoked. When it happens twice in a relatively small area (VA/WV), am I wrong to feel a bit less safe there?
At least be aware that you are out with expensive gear in areas that are lightly patrolled if at all.
Lots of folks don't realize it, but down in the heart of Appalachia, the illicit drug trade is very prevalent. Marijuana is but one "treasure crop" that you can find yourself standing in the middle of with little to no warning, especially if you've got little exposure to the stuff growing in the wild. Folks are often surprised to find out a mature plant can grow several feet in the right conditions.

I'm told ginseng, while not illegal like pot, is one of those things that-due to its value to restaurant suppliers-can find you in hot water quickly if someone thinks you're after their supply. I've further been told that in some areas, booby traps are encountered from time to time. Usually well off the beaten path, so you'd likely be nowhere near the railroad unless it was some backwoods branchline that sees a train every four months.

I've done hundreds of night shots on the Pokey and the Clinchfield in the last few years and have had a few encounters with locals that advise me to either stay clear, or get lost and I comply rather than making a thing out of it. I also carry concealed when I'm down there, but it's more for protection from bears or mountain lions than from a wayward redneck trying to protect his "inventory".

Loyd can attest, we've even been given combinations to gated properties to allow us access to certain areas that are otherwise offlimits. So you do get some pretty upstanding folks down there too, the key is a firm handshake and a no-nonsense attitude when dealing with the locals. They respect the hell out of you if you respect the hell out of them.
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The 2 worst problems I refer to were very, very serious, unexpected and unprovoked. When it happens twice in a relatively small area (VA/WV), am I wrong to feel a bit less safe there?
At least be aware that you are out with expensive gear in areas that are lightly patrolled if at all.
Do tell... count me in on the number of people who has never had any problems up there. And I have been going up there for years.

But then again, I drive a truck and probably look and talk like a hillbilly
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Loyd can attest, we've even been given combinations to gated properties to allow us access to certain areas that are otherwise offlimits. So you do get some pretty upstanding folks down there too, the key is a firm handshake and a no-nonsense attitude when dealing with the locals. They respect the hell out of you if you respect the hell out of them.
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How do you feel about lighthouses, Dave? The coast of Maine is lovely. If you do get to Maine, see if the Wiscassett, Waterville and Farmington is running - it's a neat restoration of a Maine 2-foot gauge operation. Check out some of the numerous photos of the operation here on RP to get an idea of what it's like. The Mount Washington Cog Railway and Conway Scenic in New Hampshire have already been mentioned, and are definitely worth checking out. For frequency of operations, one of your best bets would be Amtrak between Boston and New York - personally I'd shoot somewhere along the Connecticut coast. In Connecticut you could also check out the tourist operation in Essex - they run steam regularly too.

As far as 2015 planning goes, visit Gettysburg, PA for your Civil War fix, and then take some time to check out operations on the former PRR main line (Horseshoe Curve, for instance) and on Sand Patch on the old B&O. Then, head south to Maryland and visit Cumberland. From there, you can continue on down into Virginia and West Virginia. Don't miss Harper's Ferry for both Civil War and railroad reasons, and then some of the neat bridges on the NS line through the Shenandoah Valley, which also has plenty of Civil War history.

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More Maine things:

Maine Eastern Railroad offers passenger service on the scenic ex-MEC Rockland Branch.
Seaports- Kennebunk, Boothbay, Camden, and Bar Harbor are popular. A multitude of cruises (motor or sail) await. Stunning view of Camden from Camden Hills State Park. If you like lobster, the Maine coast is paradise!

And Vermont:

The Green Mountain Railroad runs autumn leaf specials on former Rutland rails in late September and early October.
Covered bridges, red barns and picturesque villages abound!
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I will certainly check out Maine. there is an article in a UK magazine this month about the narrow gauge in that State and looks very interesting. I will come back to this thread when I have booked and see what else I can glean from those knowledgeable people who replied. Many thanks again
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