Old 04-28-2014, 01:12 PM   #26
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Ask a scientist, I don't know why it looked like that.
I asked someone familiar with photo editing, and they said because you screwed up.

They then went on to say your friend Ken was doing it right, and you should take a lesson from him.

I'll consult a scientist next if you like.



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Ask a scientist, I don't know why it looked like that.
I don't need to ask a scientist to see that your depiction of the moon is F'd up and Ken's is not.

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I really like this one!

I see nothing wrong with composites. Whether in camera or post processing. Sometimes it is required in long exposures to keep everything looking correct. I was talking to a guy that had done a star trail shot over a dimly lit city scene. Knowing night time picture taking pretty well I know the shot was impossible for a single exposure. When I inquired he shared that it was a composite of 60+ pictures. Sounds a little too intensive for me but you can't argue with the results. I wish I still had a link to it to show.

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Mild (3 images) :https://www.flickr.com/photos/adickson87/9865494916/
This shoot did not go quite as well as I had hoped. I've never been real good at multitasking. That said, I still think it turned out interestingly.

Wild and likely off topic (7 images- way on the artsy side of Chris Z's spectrum haha): http://vidivides.com/photo/if-objects-could-talk
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Thanks for the discussion folks.

I was curious because I hear much to do from so-called "purists" who think that multiple exposures and overlayering of images is akin to telling some sort of a lie. As if to say, "You couldn't see the stars in 1/200 shutter speed!"

That is scientifically true, but it doesn't necessarily mean the stars aren't there, and if the only functional way to get both the stars and the choo choo train in the photo is by doing a merger, whether it be on board the camera body or when you get home and use an image processing program, then so be it.

My belief is that you're taking it a step too far when you start cramming benches, cows and mailboxes in to try and fill dead space in a scene because you, as a photographer, chose to shoot in a desolate spot simply because that's where the sun happened to be at the right angle. That's not a knock on those guys stuck living in the Great Plains, you shoot with what you have in front of you, and I think most people get that.

But if you're looking at a scene that has all of these elements that will require multiple different exposure types to make them present in the final image, I simply can't process the idea that it makes it less of a photo if that's what it takes.
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Here's a shot with both train and stars in one image. Nothing fancy, but it can be achieved.

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Chris, it's beyond easy to get stars in it when you're shooting a long exposure and static objects..



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And Loyd, I was out of the area for the preceding 2 months on assignment. Although I did have a very short period that I was back here for some meetings, it was only like 3 or 4 days.
So if I were to dial 10 numbers in a day or two you'd pick up?

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So if I were to dial 10 numbers in a day or two you'd pick up?

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Only if I don't recognize your number...
You hurt me, but I keep coming back for more.

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Chris, it's beyond easy to get stars in it when you're shooting a long exposure and static objects..



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Holy 5 different layers of glow.
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Photoshop has made photo processing a lot easier. I couldn't do this with film unless I scanned it and turned it into a digital image. Never worked in a film processing lab so know nothing about it.

I know there is no place for this on this site, but I have my own personal likings.



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Chris, it looks like the lettering on the tank is added in post. Why?
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Chris, it looks like the lettering on the tank is added in post. Why?
No, that's original. Nothing was added.

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Thanks, Chris. Just looks odd. I am thinking the high key B/W makes it stand out more than usual.
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I really like this one! . . .
Thank you.

You have a nice variety of images on flickr.

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I had seen Kevin's shot before (was going to look earlier for it but got lazy) and never even noticed the letters.
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To a point. I've taken a few at very high iso of moving trains and gotten the stars. I figure Gary did a dual exposure blend however.

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I recently got Photoshop CC and find it to be an amazing program. Cloudy shots really looked blah, from the camera and post processing. This program seems to really give a nice pop to cloudy day shots. CC also includes HDR and tone mapping.

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Minor point to add to the discussion. The Canon 6D has an "In-camera" 3 exposure HDR setting that produces a jpg.

I've tried it a couple of times. Ok results, prefer more control that Photomatix offers.
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Here's another one from in the camera. Took me several minutes of staring at it to start appreciating it, but the more I look at it, the more I like the artsy side of it.

I've now ventured down a whole new path (for me) of experimentation. Should keep me busy for the foreseeable future.
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