Old 08-28-2009, 03:55 PM   #1
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what's the difference between Adobe Photoshop elements, CS4, and Lightroom?
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Old 08-28-2009, 07:19 PM   #2
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Old 08-29-2009, 05:12 AM   #3
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Ah, too bad, no good answers yet. I have been thinking about Lightroom, it sounds like it may suit me.

BTW, Derek, PSE is just a cut-down version of PS. The cut is in two dimensions. First, there are many features (the advanced ones, pretty much, but I can't say that I know PS well) that are only offered in PS. Second, there are other features that can be used in PS with 16-bit color images, but in PSE can only be used when an image is reduced to 8-bit color (such as Transform). As 8-bit color is what a JPG uses, in practice for RP submission there is no loss with PSE. For printing, well, I send JPGs to the shop where I print and the results satisfy me. I suspect that 16-bit printing requires a high quality home color printer or submission elsewhere in TIFF form, so not you run of the mill printing place but a pro shop of some sort.
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what's the difference between Adobe Photoshop elements, CS4, and Lightroom?
If you are just using PS to edit train photos, you will be very pleased with elements.
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PS and PSE and CS4 are all about processing, not organizing. That's what Aperture and Lightroom are for.

Aperture and Lightroom do 95% of the processing you need and 100% of the organizing you need.

I use Aperture. Lightroom I have not used but does the same thing. There work involved yes but you are able to get a hold of the thousand of images digital cameras generate. I had about 7,000 images before I went digital in 2006.

I now have about 20,000 digital images.

(And I'm slow on the trigger. I think AB(2) told me he has about 170,000?)

Having ALL your images in one place ready for instant call up is fantastic.

Processing is an intuitive breeze with Aperture. I rarely need go to PS.
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I have all three products your inquiring about. Just a minor correction to Dennis' post. PSE certainly is about organizing. I haven't touched it since I switched to Lightroom. For me, organizing was the purpose for both PSE and Lightroom as I used Photoshop exclusively for processing.

I still feel a little more comfortable with the Organizer portion of PSE and I like it's note and calendar features. You could make a journal entry for a given day and add fairly extensive notes to any photo. Those features are missing from Lightroom (or I haven't found them yet). I also like how PSE's keywords work better than in Lightroom.

After upgrading to a much faster computer, Lightroom has become the center point of my work flow. I do a fair amount of the processing in Lghtroom and edit in Photoshop, but I'm slowly doing more and more in Lightroom only.
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I've had PSE 6 for about a year and am pretty pleased with its processing capabilities. Unlike everybody else however, I can't stand the Organizer.

I have my own system of filing images using Windows folders, so I don't really need a program to help me "organize". What I really need is a quick way to review images to select the ones I want to work on. There, the PSE Organizer falls down miserably. I can look at the images, but I can't zoom on them to check for sharpness etc...at least I haven't found a way to do that. When I shot JPEGs, I used to use Microsoft Windows to review images, because it does support zooming. When I started shooting RAW, that was no longer an option, so I turned back to the PSE Organizer. Unfortunately, it seemed that half the images I downloaded with it showed up in the Organizer as "broken" or "damaged". The images were fine....it was the Organizer that was "dain bramaged."

Now, I use ViewNX to select images and PSE to process. True, ViewNX won't zoom either, but I never have the problem with "damaged files" or "broken connections".

Some day, when I get photography figured out, I will buy a real program.
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I've had PSE 6 for about a year and am pretty pleased with its processing capabilities. Unlike everybody else however, I can't stand the Organizer.

I have my own system of filing images using Windows folders, so I don't really need a program to help me "organize". What I really need is a quick way to review images to select the ones I want to work on. There, the PSE Organizer falls down miserably. I can look at the images, but I can't zoom on them to check for sharpness etc...at least I haven't found a way to do that. When I shot JPEGs, I used to use Microsoft Windows to review images, because it does support zooming. When I started shooting RAW, that was no longer an option, so I turned back to the PSE Organizer. Unfortunately, it seemed that half the images I downloaded with it showed up in the Organizer as "broken" or "damaged". The images were fine....it was the Organizer that was "dain bramaged."

Now, I use ViewNX to select images and PSE to process. True, ViewNX won't zoom either, but I never have the problem with "damaged files" or "broken connections".

Some day, when I get photography figured out, I will buy a real program.
Give Lightroom a try and a little time to warm up to. Of those photos I've added to the catalog, I can find stuff in a snap.
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