Old 02-23-2017, 02:20 PM   #1
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So I have had several station interior shots accepted in the past, but it seems like those might be falling out of favor (doubtful) or my shot is deficient in some way.

This was rejected on poor aesthetics, but is not much different than others I have gotten in so just want some feedback.

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Old 02-23-2017, 03:51 PM   #2
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There's not a whole lot of supporting detail within the shot that says "Railroad" to me, and I've been there many times. It's a little dark, and the cutoff person in the foreground is distracting to me as well. The distortion needs addressed too.

I can see it being rejected for both aesthetic and technical reasons.

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Old 02-23-2017, 05:25 PM   #3
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Lack of RR content didn't hurt this one.
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Old 02-24-2017, 02:51 AM   #4
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Old 02-24-2017, 03:31 AM   #5
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A few observations:

- The Donnelly shot is brighter.

- The Donnelly image has some symmetry to it....the arches are centered. That's the biggest plus in my opinion. The off-center arches in the rejected shot are just driving me nuts....and I'm not even an artsy-fartsy type.

- The Donnelly shot doesn't have the distracting, shadowy figure of a person in the foreground who is cut off just below the waist.

All of that stuff really differentiates the accepted shot. Just my $.02.
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Old 02-26-2017, 02:06 PM   #6
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Also, legit, that submitter gets mad leeway on his submittals, he's the king of blown out skies. I'm not a fan of these type shots.
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Old 02-24-2017, 04:57 AM   #7
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Well, I think Mr. Donnelly covered it! Funny, I did a search trying to find out if anyone had done interiors of that station and did not find any using the search terms I thought would apply (Union Station), which I thought was odd. Anyway, my shot was at night, hence darker, but still its too similar to Matt's to be worth pursuing. I took a bunch of other interior shots there, maybe I'll find one a bit different to try.

I disagree that there has to be a train for an interior shot to work. Look at all the shots of Grand Central. I do agree that the passenger could be a bit distracting, though I judged her to be part of the scene. The rejection reason is clearly inconsistent, but not going to worry about that. If they wanted to reject for unlevel or something in that vein I could see it, (it is a bit unlevel I notice now but I am not seeing the assymetry).

I appreciate the feedback.

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Well, I think Mr. Donnelly covered it! Funny, I did a search trying to find out if anyone had done interiors of that station and did not find any using the search terms I thought would apply (Union Station), which I thought was odd.
The RP search box can be very finicky at times, but "Washington Union Station" did the trick.

FWIW, I like the colors in the arches better in yours.
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If they wanted to reject for unlevel or something in that vein I could see it, (it is a bit unlevel I notice now but I am not seeing the assymetry).

I appreciate the feedback.

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Hi Andre,

I would disregard my comment about the symmetry issue. I was looking at it under a slightly higher magnification last night and saw something I didn't like. I don't see that as I view it now, although I do agree it is not quite level. Honestly, I think the darkness and the cut-off figure are the issues. If you had someone dart into the picture, did you not shoot another frame or two after she cleared the edge of the frame? I probably would have just deleted this frame in-camera and shot a few more when the scene was a bit cleaner.
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Old 02-24-2017, 04:04 PM   #10
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Station shots are tough to get on..... I managed to get this one on, somewhat surprisingly. In hindsight I'm not sure the B&W edit works that well.

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Old 02-24-2017, 04:57 PM   #11
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As with many things RP, there seems little rhyme/reason why some shots get in and others don't. In this case, though, the half-person definitely detracts from the shot.

This one got on, somehow, years ago

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At the time I found the many ads in the station for Jet Blue amusing.
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Old 02-25-2017, 11:24 PM   #12
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If the half person was the problem I think the rejection would have been for foreground obstruction or something "fixable" (as in, "If that wasn't there it would be good"). I have basically viewed the Poor Aesthetic Quality rejection as unfixable. I have another shot so I may as well test the theory with your suggestions in mind and see what happens.

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Old 02-26-2017, 04:29 AM   #13
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As I suspected, the PAQ rejection is terminal:

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...61&key=3352344

Still, I think it is a strange rejection since it is an accurate depiction of the station, and I don't think there are any glaring faults in the photo this time.

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In my view it cries out for perspective correction and some color balance change (have no idea what the real thing looks like). The attached is a quick and dirty idea of what I think looks a bit better. If the original allows it I would try to get the whole first arch in and crop out some of the floor in the foreground. But this is just me.
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My guess is it who is reviewing the photo. I have some station shots on, and some that have been rejected for the same reason. No rhyme or reason, but that is the way of RP for better or worse.
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Ok, John, try to "fix" this one.!!! Smile

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That's pretty cool. Too bad the photographer didn't remove the paper towel roll first.
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Yes Jim, I was kicking myself after reviewing the photos from the very limited time I had up where I was. Not getting too specific, the access point to get to the clock is in one of the most secure places in GCT, and it was quite an obstacle getting to. Special arrangements were made with a supervisor I work with to accommodate my request.

I had photos from the other side of the clock, but the picture shown sans the roll of towels I felt came out the best.
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Pay no attention to Thias. He's the kinda guy who would complain about Publishers Clearing House flattening his grass as they walk up to present the check.



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