Old 08-17-2008, 08:43 AM   #1
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I uploaded a night shot depicting a train passing and the full moon. The screeners rejected it as "Poor esthetic quality" but I have seen many pictures like mine in RP...

Here is the picture: http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=726153142
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Old 08-17-2008, 12:13 PM   #2
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I took a quick look at other night shots similar to the one you submitted and they all seem to have other elements in the shot (i.e., bridge, buildings, other stationary trains...). Your shot has streaks of light from one side of the frame to the other with no indication of what it is. Then there is the flair of light in the upper right corner of the shot that draws your attention away from what you were trying to capture.
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Old 08-17-2008, 12:35 PM   #3
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I suspect that the issue is that this shot is pure abstraction - nothing but lines of light and a fuzzy moon. No context, no trackside objects of any sort (one can barely tell there is a RR involved - other than we are all used to streak shots and of course we know what it is - but looking at it, there is no evidence of a RR besides just a wee bit of ballast. It's a nice shot, but maybe just not suitable for RP.
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I agree with the others and have many shots that look very much like your effort in my "personal collection."

There aren't enough folks doing good night work here - keep at it, and try incorporating some interesting, railroad related stuff in your shots. Signals, crossing gates, stations, etc. will all add the context that's needed for a shot like that to work.
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There aren't enough folks doing good night work here
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Well, I guess it depends on what you mean by "good." Certainly many are attempting it.
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Well, I guess it depends on what you mean by "good." Certainly many are attempting it.
I said "enough," not "any."

Only 8,500 of the 218,000 accepted photos were taken at night. Given that it's dark out roughly 50% of the time, having less than 4% of the shots in the DB coming from the overnight hours suggests that night shots are underrepresented here.
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I said "enough," not "any."

Only 8,500 of the 218,000 accepted photos were taken at night. Given that it's dark out roughly 50% of the time, having less than 4% of the shots in the DB coming from the overnight hours suggests that night shots are underrepresented here.
I've never been to Wisconsin, but if it's dark up there 50% of the time, I feel sorry for you Cheeseheads!
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I've never been to Wisconsin, but if it's dark up there 50% of the time, I feel sorry for you Cheeseheads!
It's eternal darkness there now with Favre gone...
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While I may have foolishly spent time in Oklahoma going to school, and the last few months regrettably living in Wisconsin, it's worth pointing out that I was born and raised in Minnesota, which is where my heart belongs. In other words I root for the Twins and see Glischinski as a formidable opponent.
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http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...d=563098&key=0

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That's too bad. As far as train shots go, it's much better than the first effort you posted.

Keep at it - we have even fewer contributors doing good night work on that side of the planet.
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While I may have foolishly spent time in Oklahoma going to school, and the last few months regrettably living in Wisconsin, it's worth pointing out that I was born and raised in Minnesota, which is where my heart belongs. In other words I root for the Twins and see Glischinski as a formidable opponent.
Opponent? You got a long way to go before you even do 5% of what he has done. Have you even been published? RP does not count despite what some people say.
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Opponent? You got a long way to go before you even do 5% of what he has done. Have you even been published? RP does not count despite what some people say.
Really? I thought my small pile of photos covering 3 years and a handful of Minnesota locations was nearly equivalent to all of his articles in Trains, his calendars, books, etc.

I was merely pledging my allegiance to Minnesota. I would have said "Mike B," but most folks haven't heard of him.
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Really? I thought my small pile of photos covering 3 years and a handful of Minnesota locations was nearly equivalent to all of his articles in Trains, his calendars, books, etc.

I was merely pledging my allegiance to Minnesota. I would have said "Mike B," but most folks haven't heard of him.
My apologies. I took it the wrong way.
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This one is better, if you had a signal it would of worked out better, it probably just is my crappy monitor here at work, but I cannot tell what the object in the foreground is.

I have not had much luck with streaks, they seem to work better here with another train or a signal as the main subject:

Image © Geoff Brozny
PhotoID: 245181
Photograph © Geoff Brozny

Image © Geoff Brozny
PhotoID: 234632
Photograph © Geoff Brozny


I guess you can try something like this as well, where the code line pole is the subject:
Image © Geoff Brozny
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This one is better, if you had a signal it would of worked out better, it probably just is my crappy monitor here at work, but I cannot tell what the object in the foreground is.

I have not had much luck with streaks, they seem to work better here with another train or a signal as the main subject:

Image © Geoff Brozny
PhotoID: 245181
Photograph © Geoff Brozny

Image © Geoff Brozny
PhotoID: 234632
Photograph © Geoff Brozny


I guess you can try something like this as well, where the code line pole is the subject:
Image © Geoff Brozny
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Photograph © Geoff Brozny
I've aslo tried with signals and crossing bu again rejeted!
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I've aslo tried with signals and crossing bu again rejeted!

Can you post an example?

something like these should work:

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There is a tight balance between having the crossing in the shot and having it dominate the shot. Just be careful with that one. Night shots take some work to figure out the technical details. Just keep your nose to the grindstone and keep it up and you'll get some shots in.
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