Old 06-01-2009, 07:21 PM   #1
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Can someone explain to me how to do pan shots. Do you have to be in a car chasing a train to do a pan shot?
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When doing a pan shot, you're standing still, but photographing a moving subject. You'll want to use a low shudder speed (somewhere between 30 and 60 seems to work for me) and you'll want to use the proper aperture according to your light. I tend to use the center focus point (just to make sure the camera doesn't focus on the background). Make sure the lead locomotive (or whatever you're doing a pan shot of) is very crisp and in good focus.

A pace shot is when you are literally pacing the train at the same speed it is going. These are hard to get, as you generally have to have an open field, etc. and will obviously have to have some sort of transportation to be able to keep up with the train. Again, I'd pretty much use the same settings that I suggested for a pan shot, but just remember to adjust the aperture to whatever type of light you have around you.

Here is an example of a pace shot..

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A pan shot is when you stand in a spot and following the train with your camera. If you are in a car alongside a moving train, that's a pacing shot. Set your camera to a slow shutter speed and track the train in your view finder and release the shutter when you feel you'll get the most blur. I find it better to have the camera set to high speed shutter (burst mode) so I can just hold down the shutter release and follow the train without having to pause in between images. Chances are I'll get a keeper if I do it that way in burst mode. By the way, it takes a lot of practice to get it right so just keep trying and eventually you get a good technique down.

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Here's a pan shot: 1/2s f/3.5 at iso1000



and a pace shot: 1/80s f/14.0 at iso100


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So let me get this straight. You stand in one spot and turn the camera to follow the train.
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So let me get this straight. You stand in one spot and turn the camera to follow the train.
For a "panning" shot, yes.
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Pan with the top of your body. Keep your feet set in place.
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Pan with the top of your body. Keep your feet set in place.
This is beginning to sound like one of those exercise videos.

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This is beginning to sound like one of those exercise videos.

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And move your arms side to side, left to right
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Thank you all for your advice.
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And move your arms side to side, left to right
Hahaha. Trackside exercise.

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I think until Mitch "The Pan God" Goldman chimes in, any discussion of pans is invalid
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Any thoughts anyone may have had of ever besting Mitch at his game have been dashed with his latest, that has been sitting at the Top of the Last 24 for hours:

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Alan, this is what a pan is supposed to look like. I've got corneal lacerations from looking at this one.
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These pan shots look very cool. Thanks Kevin
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That's an impressive shot.
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Back into the RP Forum vault...

http://forums.railpictures.net/showthread.php?t=3577

Hope that helps a bit.


The key, once again is - follow through. Like in a game of
pool - you don't jerk the pool stick, you follow through to
the end, even after you've tapped the cue. Keep your arc.

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I 'shudder' (not shutter) when I look at Mitch's panned shots.

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Stand back a ways, wide's don't work well. 100 mm works well.
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I only wish there wasn't so much boring sky, and we had a little more blurred foreground. That's the point of a pan, to show motion, right?

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Stand back a ways, wide's don't work well. 100 mm works well.
Really? Hmmm....

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I only wish there wasn't so much boring sky, and we had a little more blurred foreground. That's the point of a pan, to show motion, right?

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I hope your roasting him, bc that is one of the best pan shots on here, the sense of motion is clearly there.
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Really? Hmmm....
For pans no, make's it much harder to keep the sides sharp. You can shoot as wide as you wont, but 100 or so works best.
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For pans no, make's it much harder to keep the sides sharp. You can shoot as wide as you want, but 100 or so works best.
I'd like to hear an expert's opinion on this.
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Oh yea go for it, ask mitch or look at his photo of the E5, the angel is that of a mid telephoto. 60 to 70 mm on a 1.6 camera as I still thinking full frame 100mm works best.
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Oh yea go for it, ask mitch or look at his photo of the E5, the angel is that of a mid telephoto. 60 to 70 mm on a 1.6 camera as I still thinking full frame 100mm works best.
Why do you think I posted that as an example and stated, "Oh, really?"

pstt...24mm.
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Yea cropped i think, still looks mid.
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