Old 06-26-2010, 03:44 PM   #1
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Chase and I were foaming in the gorge last night, and we both captured a shot of a similar scene. His was photographed at 947 pm, and mine at 1113 pm. How long should I wait until I give mine a go in the queue?

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Old 06-26-2010, 04:50 PM   #2
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How long should I wait until I give mine a go in the queue?
Until the day comes that Chase removes his shot.

IMO, these are a little too similar to both be in the DB (at a glance, I can't tell them apart). The good news is that both of you got great shots to fall back on.

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Old 06-26-2010, 04:58 PM   #3
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If you didnt post this, and waited a week, I would say you would get it in in an instant, by posting this, you brought attention to it, and may have to wait longer. Believe it or not, I actually like Chase's shot, he got lower and I like that big rock in the foreground. How cold was that water?
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I'm not liking Chases' shot what-so-ever. Lots of hot pixels. Chase, are there really red dots on those rocks?

Maybe a few days from now Loyd, hope it makes it in as I'm liking yours A LOT!

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I would wait about a month...

I had a very similar thing happen to me and did not realize it until my image was in the data base already. I had taken a handheld night shot of Grand Central Terminal on a NYC visit.

Week or so after I posted it, I noticed that someone else had posted almost the exact duplicate shot in the data base a few days before mine. Weird thing was that they shot theirs after me, but posted it before me.

Anyway... I believe a good shot is a good shot, and with hundreds of thousands of images in the DB the issue of similar shots from different photogs is not an issue (personally). Just give yourself some separation.

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I would have him link to yours and just put yours in ficker for now.
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I like yours better. Wait two weeks or so. And you'll definitely be fine by six weeks.
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I'm not liking Chases' shot what-so-ever. Lots of hot pixels. Chase, are there really red dots on those rocks?
I'm not seeing that
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Loyd, I think our compositions might be just different enough and there is certainly a difference in exposure as yours was 100% moon lit while mine wasn't 100%.

I'd probably wait a few weeks since you made this post..

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I'm not liking Chases' shot what-so-ever. Lots of hot pixels. Chase, are there really red dots on those rocks?

Maybe a few days from now Loyd, hope it makes it in as I'm liking yours A LOT!

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The hot pixels are just a product of the long exposure. The just stand out a little more on the rocks. Exposure has probably been tweaked just a bit in RAW making them a bit worse. No biggie.

Both are great shots!
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Thanks to everyone who's replied! I wanted to get a feel for a length of time to wait. I'm sure a few of your have rolled your eyes when a bunch of the same looking shots get uploaded at once, and I didn't want to be that person. I'm in no hurry to upload.

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The hot pixels are just a product of the long exposure. The just stand out a little more on the rocks. Exposure has probably been tweaked just a bit in RAW making them a bit worse. No biggie.

Both are great shots!
Indeed. For those who are familiar with night photography understand how hot pixels play a big roll in an image when the exposure exceeds 10 minutes. It's not caused by a high ISO (image was shot at ISO 100), it's just an annoyance that to my knowledge has no solution.

I did tweak the exposure just a hair as well, enhancing those pixels. Honestly though, I don't find the pixels to be a major distraction.

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Thanks to everyone who's replied! I wanted to get a feel for a length of time to wait. I'm sure a few of your have rolled your eyes when a bunch of the same looking shots get uploaded at once, and I didn't want to be that person. I'm in no hurry to upload.
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Hahahaa!!! I dropped him at his room, so he had a 2 hour head start. No biggie, the thrill of acceptance goes away after a few days, but having this shot in the portfolio will be great for a lifetime.

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I don't get guys who sit in the dark on a rock for five hours in total darkness just to take a shot that almost looks like it was taken in day light.

LOL

Just kidding. Great shots, but I'm with whoever said they liked Chase's better because of the big rock.
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I don't get guys who sit in the dark on a rock for five hours in total darkness just to take a shot that almost looks like it was taken in day light.
He has a point rework the shot so its darker and put it in! Then it won't look like Chase's photo.
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There is a shit-ton of noise in the darker water area on the left side of Chase's shot. What's going on there?

Both are great versions of the same scene. I like Chase's a lot (aside from the noisy water), but the color in Loyd's is fantastic.
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You guys need to coordinate your uploads. We only need one and that is enough. Debate it at the time you are shooting it and upload accordingly please.
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Indeed. For those who are familiar with night photography understand how hot pixels play a big roll in an image when the exposure exceeds 10 minutes. It's not caused by a high ISO (image was shot at ISO 100), it's just an annoyance that to my knowledge has no solution.

I did tweak the exposure just a hair as well, enhancing those pixels. Honestly though, I don't find the pixels to be a major distraction.

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I also agree about making it more night looking. Darken those shadows may help.
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You guys need to coordinate your uploads. We only need one and that is enough. Debate it at the time you are shooting it and upload accordingly please.
Why does it matter? Two different trains at two different times even though I would agree that since you both were there together that you might try to out match each others compositions.
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Why does it matter? Two different trains at two different times even though I would agree that since you both were there together that you might try to out match each others compositions.
Yes, technically they are two different trains, but since they are streak shots the differences in the two shots are even more minimal than usual.
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I understand Eric's reasoning, but I personally think they are different enough for each to merit being in the database. I may fiddle with the shot some and try to "darken" it as well for RP if and when I try uploading. Of course there's another version of a different train I may try too, that doesn't look like a daylight shot...

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How about you follow your own guidelines once in awhile.
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