Old 11-13-2015, 04:05 AM   #1
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I guess my camera's electronic level must be off or its +\- tolerance is too great.

Shot with a wide angle lens. Super-elevated curve. I am thinking appeal. Your thoughts?

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Front engine slight lean to the right. Rear engine vertical?? Should I level off the front's nose by maybe .5 CCW?

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Old 11-13-2015, 05:16 AM   #2
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They're both leaning right.

The first one more so. I would try correcting the distortion.

The CSX shot is off by like 0.2/0.3 tops. The colors are also really washed out, but that might be the faded yellow on the ol' 317.
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Old 11-13-2015, 10:56 AM   #3
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Thanks Mathieu. I will re-edit, re-submit and wait for the next re-jection re-ason.
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Hey Carl.. on your graveyard curve photo.. you're not giving the grade enough love. It's 2.84 percent in that stretch.

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Old 11-13-2015, 11:59 PM   #5
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Just a waste of time...again. Why do the screeners"F" with you when you are their source for photos?

Both where hit with Lighting (Cloudy): Cloudy day shots of common/standard power, as well as cloudy images of common/standard angles and scenes, are generally not accepted.

It must be awful hard to add more than one rejection reason while screening photos.

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Old 11-14-2015, 12:49 AM   #6
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Just a waste of time...again. Why do the screeners"F" with you when you are their source for photos?


It must be awful hard to add more than one rejection reason while screening photos.
It sometimes seems like they take pleasure in building up hopes to dash them with a killer rejection. I would be much more content to get the killer rejection right out of the gate than to spend time, and in my case, one of my two daily upload slots, reprocessing an image only to have the effort go for naught. In your two examples, I could see that it was cloudy on the original two submissions, so why didn't the screener? The screeners don't need to offer multiple reasons, but they should send the rejection for the most flagrant offense, so the submitter knows whether it is worth the effort to reprocess the image.

I would be in favor of having a relaxation of the cloudy day and dark nose rejections, and the addition of a "great light, same old stuff" rejection.
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Old 11-14-2015, 05:28 AM   #7
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Why do the screeners"F" with you when you are their source for photos?

Just want everyone to read this again.
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Old 11-15-2015, 01:11 AM   #8
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It sometimes seems like they take pleasure in building up hopes to dash them with a killer rejection.
Case in point:

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...22&key=5596335

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...42&key=1111112

I guess the weeds weren't apparent in the unlevel submittal.

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Old 11-15-2015, 01:54 AM   #9
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Case in point:

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I guess the weeds weren't apparent in the unlevel submittal.

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This would have done quite well, maybe top 4.
Far from disliking the goldenrod, I would have made it even brighter.
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To me,the weeds in the foreground do not detract from the image,they actually enhance it.
Lovely shot.
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Old 11-15-2015, 11:55 PM   #11
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Just a waste of time...again. Why do the screeners"F" with you when you are their source for photos?

Both where hit with Lighting (Cloudy): Cloudy day shots of common/standard power, as well as cloudy images of common/standard angles and scenes, are generally not accepted.

It must be awful hard to add more than one rejection reason while screening photos.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...51&key=5594096
Why did you resubmit this without any leveling correction? It looks to be leaning to the right exactly as the first one was.
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Old 11-16-2015, 12:17 AM   #12
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The second image, though a good action shot, seems too washed out. Colors are flat, headlights too bright, and a lot of noise. I'd say keep it for your records.

As for the first one though, crop slightly on the right side of the image, give some more looking room from the nose of the lead unit, and rotate it to the left .03 or so. Also, annotate in the "Comments to Screeners" box of the changes you made, as well as the environment of the location you were at, superelevated curve, cloudy day, but good color on the trees etc. They may sway your way when you provide them that kind of info. Lasty, just an FYI, The first submission had good sharpness, but the second one was too soft. Try it out and tell us how it did.
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Old 11-16-2015, 02:32 AM   #13
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@Jim. I cant' remember now, but I think I gave it .3 or .4 CCW.

@wheel. The Mance shot was given a slight CCW (.5ish) and some distortion correction. The distortion correction must have made the image soft.

The CSX shot is faded sun-bleached paint. I believe the noise is actually heat distortion caused by notch 8 for several hours at 6 MPH. Radiator heat and traction motor heat and cool ambient temps.

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I checked the electronic level in my D800E using three methods. The first was to level my tripod using a torpedo level in the X axis, and then level it in the Y axis (placed level against "face" of the lens.) My second method was to stretch a string tightly between the frame of a doorway, using a mason's string level to check for perfect levelness, using camera's internal grid lines as reference point and camera's internal level indicator. My third way was to hang a plumb line from a wooden joist in my basement, and compare that against the camera internal grid lines and electronic level indicator. It turns out that the internal level is generally close, but inconsistent. My Chamonix 4x5 field camera has three small bubble levels built in, and it's always spot on.


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