Old 05-16-2007, 02:03 AM   #1
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well I got lucky that this train went through my area, my photos got rejected though which didnt surprise me
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...key=1097510360
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http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...d=372808&key=0
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=947854699
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...d=372811&key=0

The third one is a bit grainy which im trying to fix, what do yah guys think about the others especially the first one, yeah it needs to be cropped a little bit but it looks good to me.
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Old 05-16-2007, 02:16 AM   #2
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What type of camera are you using? It also looks like the shots are oversharpened, which leads to the grain/noise being a problem...
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Old 05-16-2007, 02:20 AM   #3
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my crappy 3.2 megapixel fujifilm, which I knew would make it hard for these photos to get accepted on this site, hmm a little oversharpened you say, I wont sharpen the redo's as much see how they look. Also would making these pictures 800x600 help out with the quality??

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Old 05-16-2007, 03:13 AM   #4
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Definately, making it smaller will compress the pixels to give it more of a softer and normal looking appearence. Dont sharpen it (or as much) and make it smaller, see if that helps.

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Old 05-16-2007, 06:06 AM   #5
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here are some of the redo pics, I didnt sharpen them at all and I sized them 800x600
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Old 05-16-2007, 12:51 PM   #6
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The first shot seems to have the only chance right now. The other two are blurred from the speed of the train.

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Old 05-17-2007, 09:23 PM   #7
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they all got rejected when I submitted them again bad cropping for two of them and like you said blury for http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...d=373417&key=0

I sharpened it up a bit, is the blur still significant? Are you seeing it mainly down by the axels on the train?
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I was looking at the shot that was rejected for being blurry. The shot looked OK, but something just wasn't quite right about it. It looks to me like the UP shield on the nose is slightly out of focus, and the entire front of the locomotive looks a hair out of focus. This is likely due to the speed the train was moving: you focused the camera, then took the shot, but in the time between focusing and shooting, the front of the locomotive moved out of the focus plane enough that it became blurry. That happens to me a lot, and I've adjusted so that my timing allows that the train is in the right spot the instant my camera is focused and I immediately take the shot. With very fast trains I still end up a bit out of focus, but not enough that sharpening won't take care of it.

You might be able to fix yours with sharpening, but it's a bit more out of focus than mine end up so it may not be fixable. Experienced photoshoppers will know for sure.
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Out of focus is out of focus, and photoshopping can't really do anything to help.

One thing to try when it comes to focusing is to pre-focus before the train gets there. What that means is finding a spot where you want the subject to be, putting your focal spot there, pressing the shutter halfway down to lock the focus, and then pressing the shutter the rest of the way when the train gets to where you're focused. That takes the 'timing' out of the equation, assuming of course shutter lag isn't an issue...
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Old 05-18-2007, 02:05 AM   #10
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Well im pretty excited one of my other photos of this train got accepted, my first one on this site by the way, i'll just leave that picture alone and just use it as a lesson learned for other attemps of that nature in the future now there is another that just got rejected for bad cropping, how should I go about fixing this? Take out more of the bottom part showing the shadow and road?
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how should I go about fixing this? Take out more of the bottom part showing the shadow and road?
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That would work, but there is a small tree obscuring part of the fuel tank, another one by the rear truck, and a tree sprouting out of the top of the locomotive. Even with an improved crop, it would probably get dinged for foreground clutter. Just go out tomorrow and take it again with no bush in the way, because it's supposed to be another beautiful day. Heck, I wish I could get out one more time before I move on Sunday and take advantage of the nice weather, but it isn't going to happen.
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What is the model of the new GEVO hybrid?
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What is the model of the new GEVO hybrid?
I don't believe it has an official name yet.
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I want to guess that it will be HS44 something since ES was Evolution Series and this is Hybrid Series.
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Wait, I am confused. I thought the evolution series had hybrid engines. Am I wrong? What is the difference between the Hybrid and Evolution series?
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Wait, I am confused. I thought the evolution series had hybrid engines. Am I wrong? What is the difference between the Hybrid and Evolution series?
You're wrong. Evolution Series engines still use diesel...they just have tighter emission control...
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Well guys after 3 previous rejections I got another picture accepted with the hybrid unit. I finally figured out what the screener was wanting me to do reguarding editing it, Ken you were wrong about that paceing picture!!!! not bad for using a 3.2mp camera!!!
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