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Bad cropping? Not enough room between the nose and the right side of the frame? Over processed? I was woprking with Oloneo Photo Engine before the beta version expires. Maybe I over did it. Any thoughts?

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Bad cropping? Not enough room between the nose and the right side of the frame? Over processed? I was woprking with Oloneo Photo Engine before the beta version expires. Maybe I over did it. Any thoughts?

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...key=1221651657

I'm not seeing either as legit rejections, especially over processed. Processing looks spot on. Maybe for the sake of RP, a little more room in front of the lead.

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It could be the incorrect data?

It's a little tight on the far right, and could use some cropped off the bottom. I dont think it's that overprocessed, maybe lighten the sky some, it is awful blue, but then again, I like that look.

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Old 11-30-2010, 02:12 AM   #4
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As far as "Overprocessed" is concerned, I think the sky is oversaturated.

I experimented a bit in Photoshop. Try lightening the sky and perhaps desaturating it a small bit.
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I really don't know about overprocessed, but I could see the cropping reject coming from the train being level in the frame vertically. So, crop off some of the top or bottom, you pick.

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Edit: Also, the color of the unit is really weird. Dunno why, but it looks green to me.
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I think the tree on the right looks far to over processed. Almost fake looking.
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I think the tree on the right looks far to over processed. Almost fake looking.
I assume it looks that way because that's a building behind it.
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I assume it looks that way because that's a building behind it.
Maybe I don't know, it just looks pasted in there.
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Congrats, Joe. Good job.
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Thanks for the suggestions. I can see there may be an issue with the placement of the train. I had shot some telephotos and had a little trouble changing lens. The train was almost too far past in this frame for me. Anyway, I took a few suggestions and subdued the processing a bit.... and got the underexposed reject. Which in hindsight, iot probably was. Third version is waiting now.

OPh, the bad info was fixed. I noted it as soon as I uploaded the first version and thought I fixed it in the queu. Being the reporting mark nazi, I try to keep my Is crossed and my Ts dotted.
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The color on the rejection looks much better. Too much of a red tone in the accepted image. Put each one in a tab and compare.
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The color on the rejection looks much better. Too much of a red tone in the accepted image. Put each one in a tab and compare.
Agreed. I can see a bit more warmth compared to the rejection, but not to the extent of the accepted.

The accepted also looks a bid underexposed. As though one was responding to the shadows/highlights rejection (correct in my view, too much shadows adjustment in the rejection) by decreasing overall brightness instead of just the shadows.

My ideal would probably be something like a 50/50 blend of the two, in terms of color and exposure.
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Wow, the accepted version is so much worse than the rejection posted. There's a pretty big variation in the sky color on the accepted shot. Never seen an almost black sky like that in the middle of the day.

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The sky looks 10000% worse in the accepted photo and the whole thing looks underexposed. I would try to do a re-upload
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I did like the first rejection better. I'll see if I can find a better middle ground than I did.
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Wow, the accepted version is so much worse than the rejection posted. There's a pretty big variation in the sky color on the accepted shot. Never seen an almost black sky like that in the middle of the day.

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Hi Chris - nice to see a screener showing surprise at an accepted shot

There seems to have been a raw nerve touched recently over the C*ns*st*n*y word - lots of threads kicked off on the subject, but if you are critiquing an acceptance, it's hardly surprising that others do the same based on their own rejections.

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I know it made top 2 of the day - I looked at it because I couldn't quite believe the colours I was seeing on the thumbnail. The EXIF says 1/320 F6.3 at ISO800 - but is it natural ? Chris Z - I can't remember if you post or lurk here - I like it as a piece of photo art, but I suspect there is just a teeny weeny bit of Photoshop magic used

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Oh, that one, we asked him to post the original, he did and it looked a little different, but believable. It was the light blue at the top that made me believe it was wack.

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Thanks Troy - must have missed the thread on that one. I prefer the original, the sky in the accepted version looks too 'forced' to be real.
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Actually, Steve, cBlaz isn't a screener. His brother used to be, but he isn't any more.
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Thanks - must have got my wires crossed
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That's OK. We all do at one time or another.
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Hi Joe,

Let me join the chorus of those who like the rejected version better. That version was not grossly overprocessed at all. If anything, it looked like you might have overdone the highlights a bit, as the clouds didn't look as bright as they should have for a nice, sunny day. Otherwise, that version just needed a cropping adjustment (less on the bottom and more on the right.).

I would go back to the rejected version and perhaps brighten it a bit or back off on the highlights. Re-crop and do a re-submit. The most they can do is reject the re-upload and the current version stays.

Nothing like messing with a decent shot to get someone else to like it....then not liking the result yourself. Been there!
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