Old 11-30-2011, 12:22 AM   #1
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This is the third time it's been rejected for bad color/saturation. I didn't think the color was bad, so I toned down the saturation each time. Now I'm lost. Any advice?
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Old 11-30-2011, 12:26 AM   #2
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If you shot it raw, do a white balance correction, they rejected it because of the yellow cast of the sodium vapor light...
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Old 11-30-2011, 12:30 AM   #3
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If you shot it raw, do a white balance correction, they rejected it because of the yellow cast of the sodium vapor light...
I don't shoot RAW, unfortunately. Planning on making the switch once I get a few other things taken care of.
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Old 11-30-2011, 12:35 AM   #4
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You can try selecting everything but the 2 red dots on the signal, then doing saturation, and yellow channel, drop it quite a bit, that may help, try red too slightly.
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Old 11-30-2011, 12:55 AM   #5
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You're pretty much screwed. Tungsten at night if you have to shoot jpeg.

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Old 11-30-2011, 02:46 AM   #6
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Wyatt, I did a 30 second white balance adjustment just to see what was possible. This isn't just right yet, but I think you can get it there. I did this in Lightroom and used the eye dropper and found a spot on the signal box that was close to 18% gray. I left it so it still looked a little like artificial light, but not as much as it was. Sky still needs some work, but I think it's possible.


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You need to paste the signals off the originals over that, red aspects look pink
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This genre of shots bores me - I'll be right up front and say it! - but there is a shot here, or on another occasion, where the focus is on that really cool crossbucks shadow on the train.
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Old 11-30-2011, 03:10 AM   #9
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You're screwed, but not because you didn't shoot in RAW.

First - there's no reason not to shoot in RAW.

Most cameras will do both yet there's really no point to capturing JPEGs.

A RAW will give you more to work with and can EASILY be converted to
a JPEG while still being viewable in many software applications - including
the software that came with your camera and even Windows.

Now - IF you chose /choose to shoot as a JPEG - you can easily fix color temperatures. There are shareware /freeware programs out there that correct temperature or many programs have "auto color" as a feature or one of many other methods of correcting the color is with color balance. Just slide the red and yellow's down.

Still - for a scene as such, with funky lighting and red signals (and little else), you likely didn't have a scene to catch that was any better then what you had seen with your own eyes.



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but there is a shot here, or on another occasion, where the focus is on that really cool crossbucks shadow on the train.
Or something like this:

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This genre of shots bores me - I'll be right up front and say it! - but there is a shot here, or on another occasion, where the focus is on that really cool crossbucks shadow on the train.
I'm glad you said that, because I thought it. There have to be other things to try besides signals in the night.

That said---this ain't a bad shot otherwise. The red signal lights are pink, of course, and there's that yellow color cast.

I'm at a loss to tell you what to do to fix those things.
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Maybe bring it in to something like this.



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I'll just let this one go then, thanks guys!

I disagree 100%, signals at night are very cool. In general, railroading at night is awesome! Sure there's other things out there, but I find it interesting.
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Y@ I have never seen pink asphalt before...
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Y@ I have never seen pink asphalt before...
Clearly you've never been to Wyoming:

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Actually yeah I have, but it's not pink in Pemberville.
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Actually yeah I have, but it's not pink in Pemberville.
Ah; you weren't clear about where you had not seen pink asphalt before.

Out of curiosity, Wyatt, when did the Columbus Sub get renamed to the Pemberville Sub?
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Ah; you weren't clear about where you had not seen pink asphalt before.

Out of curiosity, Wyatt, when did the Columbus Sub get renamed to the Pemberville Sub?
It's been the Pemberville Sub between Fostoria and Walbridge for some time now. Can't give you an exact amount of time though.
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Ah; you weren't clear about where you had not seen pink asphalt before.
Pretty common out in the Mojave Desert in California.

CalTrans uses high iron content rock for asphalt patches.

The rock is obtained from cinder cones.

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