Old 04-09-2007, 05:38 PM   #1
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Talking Of lost gems and duds

Let's post a few of our favorite "lost gems" or maybe just one of our own "duds". Yeah, yeah I know, we've done this before. But each time it seems to bring some interesting stuff to the surface.

As Mitch Goldman originally noted, there are a lot of great pix that have fallen through the cracks: no SC, POTW, PCA and few hits. Just gone unnoticed for whatever reason. And there is no easy way to locate them except by more or less random search.

And since the lost gems can be hard to find, and just for variety, how about our own pix we've posted with great expectations only for the hit count to fall flat.

I'll start with this one:

Image © Alan John Crotty
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It has been in the data base for only ten days, but seems to be getting ignored. I nominated it for a PCA. For my taste the lighting is about as good as it gets.

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Old 04-09-2007, 05:46 PM   #2
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I just popped through all the images that I have left comments upon, and all of the unrewarded ones still had 1000+ views. What shall be the criteria for inclusion in this soon-to-be great thread?
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Well, I started looking through Alex Lang's stuff as I knew there would be a number of gems there, and of course the great ones have lots of hits, but this one I like so much, that even though it is over 1000, it deserves renewed notice. It is my favorite Pittsburgh railroading shot.

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OK, I'm greatly enthused by this topic.

I just went through the best of yesterday and was quite puzzled to see this shot get fewer hits than my run-of-the-mill CSX coal train shot:

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Michael has an excellent series of shots from China; I encourage you to click on "more" next to his name and check them all out.
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Old 04-09-2007, 08:26 PM   #6
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Well, I started looking through Alex Lang's stuff as I knew there would be a number of gems there, and of course the great ones have lots of hits, but this one I like so much, that even though it is over 1000, it deserves renewed notice. It is my favorite Pittsburgh railroading shot.

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Janusz, it's interesting that your favorite Pittsburg photo from one of your favorite contributors is abscent of any comments from you! Last I checked, you can still leave comments on previously posted photos, too!

Here's a relatively new lost Gem that comes to my mind without much of a search - a photo by Andrew which came and went without generating many remarks - one standard I would consider in electing a lost gem, in addition to view counts, age and subject matter.

Image © Andrew Blaszczyk (2)
PhotoID: 153654
Photograph © Andrew Blaszczyk (2)


And here are a few nostalgic lost gems, gems submitted before "their time" or photos that might have garnered many more comments and views if uploaded today.

Image © Ed Wittekind
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Image © George W. Hamlin
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Janusz, it's interesting that your favorite Pittsburg photo from one of your favorite contributors is abscent of any comments from you! Last I checked, you can still leave comments on previously posted photos, too!
I became aware of the shot in another forum, before my RP days, and in fact I have a framed copy of that photo! Of late, I have been ramping up my rate of commentary, and in fact I left one today on a picture from 2004!

BTW, Mitch, congrats on the Railpace back page. I recall commenting on that photo some time ago, but don't recall the forum. Great to see it again.

PS: It's PittsburgH PA, although it is Pittsburg KS.
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Was looking through some sunset route and others ones and found a few by various photog's.

Image © Steve Schmollinger
PhotoID: 54179
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Image © Steve Schmollinger
PhotoID: 53809
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Image © Steve Schmollinger
PhotoID: 53320
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Here's a relatively new lost Gem that comes to my mind without much of a search - a photo by Andrew which came and went without generating many remarks - one standard I would consider in electing a lost gem, in addition to view counts, age and subject matter.

Image © Andrew Blaszczyk (2)
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That's one of Andrew's shots I had forgotten about.... but you can see I posted a comment last August on how it should have got more hits. I love that shot. Then again, I think some of the great photos on this site like Andrew probably have some shots that do get low post counts just because they upload so many great ones consistently. The same goes to Michael Rhodes and his many China steam shots. They may get more hits if you stagger the upload over a few days.


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This should have gotten more hits. Lotsa comments but not that many hits. And a striking picture.

Image © Michael F. Allen
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This should have gotten more hits. Lotsa comments but not that many hits. And a striking picture.

I'll take comments over hits any day.
Here's one with lots of hits and only a single comment....

Image © Mitch Goldman
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If you see my own comment it was an error which was meant as a reply to Chris and I've asked admin to remove it. I'm rather puzzled as I actually expected lots of comments and few hits as it was a timely play on Jean-Marc's TGV speed record setting photos - any one care to comment here (or there?).

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Mitch, I guess RP is not a humor site...
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I'll take comments over hits any day.
Here's one with lots of hits and only a single comment....

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If you see my own comment it was an error which was meant as a reply to Chris and I've asked admin to remove it. I'm rather puzzled as I actually expected lots of comments and few hits as it was a timely play on Jean-Marc's TGV speed record setting photos - any one care to comment here (or there?).

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Somehow, the first time I viewed that shot, I didn't notice it was a pan shot. Very neat, and I'm sure it was an interesting challenge to pull off.

This thread reminded me of a shot I saw a few weeks back which was one of the 10 best rail shots I'd seen in my life, yet only had about 300 views. Of course, now I can't find it, even though I could swear I commented on it. Gotta keep looking...
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My favorite Fallen Flag pic only has two comments

Image © Paul Greenfield
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Image © Paul Greenfield
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A wonderful image. I never would have found it because it was posted long before I was an RP lurker much less member. And no SC, POW, and probably predated the PCA process. Bet it would have been a PCA had there been one. It is stuff like that we need to find a process for finding and "recycling" to more viewers.

While I'm here, let me contribute a "dud". I posted this with high expectations and got barely 200 hits after a month!

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While I'm here, let me contribute a "dud". I posted this with high expectations and got barely 200 hits after a month!
John, great shot, but unfortunately it "thumbnails" poorly - the thumbnail gives little indication of the quality of the larger image. Constrained by technology!
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Old 04-10-2007, 07:21 PM   #17
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How an image "thumbnails" can have a huge impact pro or con. Some images "demand" to be opened, while others like the one above loose a lot in the thumbnail. Win some loose some.

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John, This sort of reminds me of the Loving Spoonful lyric from Nahville Cats: "And up north there ain't nobody buys them. And I said, but I will." I saw, I commented, but I was the only one! I recognized Drei Annen Hohne from the tumbnail and the shot really spoke to me, but that may be because I've been there.

If the thumbnail is too good, people don't bother opening the shot, if it's too obscure, they pass on by, so it needs to be interesting but not complete.

Thanks to WetRails for pointing out the Paul Greenfield shot. It's a terrific photo and is exactly what we mean by a "Lost Gem." I see it's garnered a couple more comments as a result.

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I know that a searchable rating system has been proposed previously and rejected for various reasons, but is there any way the number of comments could be searched on? This still wouldn't bring John's shot very high up, but I would guess that a fairly large percentage of good shots have garnered at least a few comments. Searching by number of comments would at least be a starting point for mining the data base for lost gold.

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Somehow, the first time I viewed that shot, I didn't notice it was a pan shot. Very neat, and I'm sure it was an interesting challenge to pull off.

This thread reminded me of a shot I saw a few weeks back which was one of the 10 best rail shots I'd seen in my life, yet only had about 300 views. Of course, now I can't find it, even though I could swear I commented on it. Gotta keep looking...
Image © Ryan Schoenfeldt
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I think this is it. I gave this shot a PCA. I'm sure many could find ways to tear it down, but I just really like the shot.
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Ken, in the general category of "barn shots" I like this one by Chris Starnes:
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Very similar, no?
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Similar in many ways, yet at the same time not similar at all. The snow shot appeals to me far more than the other, yet both have a barn, a road running beside the tracks...the main differences are the angle, the snow, and the subject. Yet the snow shot just speaks to me more.


Speaking of barn shots, here is one I especially liked.

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Ken, the first barn shot you put in is nice, but frankly I'm surprised it was accepted. It is grossly oversharpened. The worst of it - just look at the halo artifacts around the power lines. Overall, it detracts.

The last one you linked to is just fabulous.
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Keeping within the initial thread - lost GEMS while still addressing the barnyard side track -

How's this for a lost Barn GEM.
Wow!
Can we retro a PC?

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One approach I have used to try to find gems is to do a search by photographer, then sort them by popularity, and start looking at the bottom of the list. Here one I really like.
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