Old 01-27-2007, 04:22 AM   #1
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Default ...Bad cropping?

I'd say this is probably the best photo I've ever taken of a train, and it gets bad angle?
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Well, I'm speechless.
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Old 01-27-2007, 04:28 AM   #2
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Love the location, love the color, love almost everything.

Could you crop it more vertically? Perhaps showing more foreground under the train??
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Old 01-27-2007, 04:32 AM   #3
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I think that was probably a case of the screener checking the wrong rejection. While I don't see a problem with the cropping, but I do see a shot already in the database of that train which is pretty similiar.

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Old 01-27-2007, 04:33 AM   #4
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Well, there's a road down there, and I'm fairly sure that that would detract from the picture....plus, if I wanted to keep the aspect ratio that RP likes so much, I'd have to add in some dead space on the left
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I see two problems with the rejected picture. One, there is too little foreground between the engine and the bottom of the picture. That really really detracts from the composition. The fact there is a road and a parking lot down there is irrelevent, composition is composition and you have to work around stuff like that. The better view is farther away, to avoid crowding the road. Two, the sky is completely cyan (which can be fixed in Photoshop I think).

The distant shot already in the data base is a much better shot.

All that said, I can understand your frustration. Not only did you get to Morant's Curve in the dead of winter under idyllic conditions, but you climbed the hill to get some additional elevation. There are a lot of very nice things about the picture, but net net I think the screeners were right, especially given the fact there are so many other pix of Morant's Curve in the data base.

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My view is that there is dead or at least dull area on the left. I would love this as a square, cutting off a goodly amount from the left side. Square formats are not accepted at RP, but that would make the best image for my tastes.

I have no problem with the close proximity of train to the bottom - it just puts greater emphasis on the grandeur of the mountain. Just like another shot we were discussing here in the last few weeks.

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Old 01-27-2007, 07:09 PM   #7
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Yeah, you got me on that one . I cropped my picture the way I did for the same reason....there was a highway at the bottom. But the close crop bothered me for the same reason. I went with it because it was the only view I had, and was somewhat surprised how well accepted it was. I also cited it in our discussion as a violation of the rule of thirds...but apparently a successful one in the eyes of others. Shows you how much I know.

Going back to the subject at hand, assuming "trainboysd40" equals Matthew Hicks, I think the posted view is better than the one that was rejected. I agree with you about the dead area to the left on the rejected view. And in relooking at it this morning it is over sharpened. But it is a nice picture. What might work is to go vertical (keeping it as wide as the rules allow), fix the cyan sky, and review the sharpening.

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FWIW, I like the landscape rejected one. There are a few things that need to be tweeked about it, but regardless is pretty similar to the other one.
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Besides the fact that the camera should be aimed down a bit, the sky and mountains are quite overexposed.

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I think the composition is oK, but IMO seems to be too compressed/pixelated.
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Old 01-28-2007, 04:40 AM   #11
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ya, i think cropping is fine, but the compression of the cropping made it like what franz said, made it Pixalated a little and kind of grainy
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