Old 02-13-2007, 04:29 PM   #1
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EDIT: changed the title because no one seems to be popping in, maybe "Germany" is dissuading people. Or maybe the picture is not inspiring anyone to say anything. Hmm...
PS: Aargh, it doesn't work! I can't change the title and have the change show in the main list, oh well.

First of all, I'm thrilled this one got in - thanks to the people in the other thread who offered suggestions on it (I just got around to submitting it today):
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This one was rejected:
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I wonder whether this is a simple case of differing preferences, or am I not seeing aspects of it that are detrimental. I happen to like it, and will probably continue to do so even after hearing your responses. They won't bother me. This one may be for my collection, but I am curious as to what others think.
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Old 02-13-2007, 06:43 PM   #2
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Hi Janusz, just my 2 cents...there's no real clear focal point in the image. The tower is the most dominating feature, but the tracks, wires & sidewalks lead your eye away from it...off to a varishing point on the right. Something at the far end of that track straightaway probably would have brought the whole scene together.
Just a little color in the sky probably would have helped too...but you can't control mother nature. I'm inclined to say try it as a b/w due to the almost total lack of color already...but I'm thinking the composition is a bigger problem than the color.

Just one man's opinion...and I'm not a screener...so who knows?

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Thanks, Bill. I am not so concerned about the screener view. Good point about the focal point - I had thougth the train crossing over left to right would serve, but I guess not. Since it's a year later, I can't answer the obvious question of why I didn't wait for that train to make some more progress to the right. The probable answer is that I didn't know better at the time.
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I'm not sure if you have enough pixels to make a tighter cop...but what if you cropped from the left, eliminating all the empty space on the side of that building? That would tighten the composition & give a more 'down the center' feel, with the dark objects on both sides framing the shot?

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The pixels are there, but not the image quality (It's no better when compression is minimized)
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I like the picture too. Depending on what version of Photoshop you have, try adjusting the highlights , i e darkening them, with the shadow/highlight tool. (Not all versions have this wondrous little feature). This would put some more detaill into the sky and possibly put in all those bleached out overhead wires. Once you've finished fiddling with the shadow/highlight tool, fine tune it with the contrast adjustment, taking care not to burn out what you've just achieved with the shadow/highlight tool.

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I like the picture too. Depending on what version of Photoshop you have, try adjusting the highlights , i e darkening them, with the shadow/highlight tool. (Not all versions have this wondrous little feature). This would put some more detaill into the sky and possibly put in all those bleached out overhead wires. Once you've finished fiddling with the shadow/highlight tool, fine tune it with the contrast adjustment, taking care not to burn out what you've just achieved with the shadow/highlight tool.

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Thanks. I've already done some shadow/highlights, the platform "D" was almost unreadably dark before I used it.
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Regarding the crop, I was thinking something like this....
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Regarding the crop, I was thinking something like this....
Excellent!!!!!
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Love the B&W edit. Even more contrast would work.
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It's unusual for an image to be posted here that can be cropped so many different ways, my suggestion is attached. I think you could classify this shot as an above average record shot but not RP material.

The big problem here is the sky, unfortunately there is just not enough detail to recover. Overall the camera has done very well to capture a scene in what the camera would surely classify as exposure hell.

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