Old 06-20-2010, 02:28 AM   #1
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Besides a chainsaw to cut down what a landscape engineer thought was a good idea, is there anything here to do better? Nice little steam loco and tender that's nearly impossible to get a picture of due to trees and bushes.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...d=826274&key=0

This loco is not in the database and I thought I would give it a try.

Thought? Suggestions? Hints? Tips?

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Old 06-20-2010, 02:32 AM   #2
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Portrait crop with the sign square in the frame and the cab of the locomotive behind it on one side?

It'd more or less be the left 2/3 of your shot... might work.
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Old 06-20-2010, 03:43 AM   #3
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This loco is not in the database and I thought I would give it a try.
Just because an engine isn't in the database doesn't mean it has to be. There's plenty of display engines out there that will never make it on RP because of their settings.

Is that the only bush in front of the engine? If you can get a wide shot with only one bush, it might not be so bad. How about a head-on angle?

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I see a lot of good shots on Flickr now that aren't showing up here...
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Old 06-20-2010, 07:43 AM   #6
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A locomotive has 6 sides, 5 of which you can usually photograph. You showed us 1.

If you dont understand what I am trying to say, there is always this...

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Besides a chainsaw to cut down what a landscape engineer thought was a good idea
That's a landscape architect who wastes money by spending way too much time pondering planting placement.
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That's a landscape architect who wastes money by spending way too much time pondering planting placement.
A least you don't resemble that remark, eh Dave!
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This thread is a lot like reading a "picture book"...

Wow, I get it!

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Shoot from inside the cab looking towards the front. Use a wide angle on a off camera flash.
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Old 06-22-2010, 08:55 PM   #12
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Hey, That's a good idea! I'll try it sometime.

Another couple rejects I would like an opinion on. I took these one morning and they received the back lit rejection. Am I close enough to make an appeal or are they indeed backlit enough to let them go. Plenty of light on the sides but the nose is somewhat halfway shadowed.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...d=827230&key=0


http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...key=1126116520

Let me know.

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There's nothing remarkable enough about either of those (as far as I know) to overcome the poor lighting. Let them go.
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Like Nick said.

Aside from the fact that they are your photos, and those always hold a special place in the heart (like mine do too), What makes them good enough to overcome the substandard lighting? I always click the shutter no matter how good or bad the result may be, but when it comes to uploading to RP, I ask myself "Will this shot help prove my credibility as a photographer, or hinder it?"

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Old 06-23-2010, 02:02 AM   #15
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The reason I asked about the backlit rejects was the fact this one made it in the database:

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which was taken about 10 minutes after the first reject and 30 minutes before the BNSF reject give or take a bit.

Back to the drawing board I guess.

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The reason I asked about the backlit rejects was the fact this one made it in the database:

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which was taken about 10 minutes after the first reject and 30 minutes before the BNSF reject give or take a bit.
I think the GT/Bessemer power makes it just interesting enough to be passable.
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Old 06-25-2010, 03:07 AM   #17
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O.K. So back to my original topic. I went and tried a different shot of this loco and received another reject.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=750507907

O.K. fine. Back to the drawing board.

But then I saw this shot and it got me wondering. I think it's basically the same shot IMHO.

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So after viewing Jeff's, I appealed mine and it was rejected. Again.

Any ideas? Thoughts? Comments?

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For me, your latest version would be good if the sweetlight could be a little less sweet and without the shadows on the bottom right. They are to me what the killer really is.

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I think the GT/Bessemer power makes it just interesting enough to be passable.
And that its clearly not backlit.
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I'm going to attempt to type this in a way that doesn't put me across as a d-bag, a-hole, d-head, and other letter + word descriptions.

Why push to upload a "meh" shot, just because somebody got their "meh" shot accepted???

I'm sure there's a shot waiting to be taken there, but the "walked up and clicked the shutter" shot isn't it. Sorry.


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O.K. So back to my original topic. I went and tried a different shot of this loco and received another reject.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=750507907

O.K. fine. Back to the drawing board.

But then I saw this shot and it got me wondering. I think it's basically the same shot IMHO.

Image © Jeff Terry
PhotoID: 329291
Photograph © Jeff Terry


So after viewing Jeff's, I appealed mine and it was rejected. Again.

Any ideas? Thoughts? Comments?

Thanks in advance.

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Old 06-25-2010, 10:54 PM   #21
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Loyd L. and others,

Your not at all sounding like any letter + word description. I want to hear what others are thinking when I make a thread because I'm trying to learn to play this game and hearing some advice only helps. All I'm asking is why his and not mine for learning purposes.

Sure we got different screeners and life is not fair but is that it? I would have let mine go and tried something else if not for Jeff's making it. Thats what just got me thinking. And asking.

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I like it Todd.

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