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Old 01-11-2011, 06:25 PM   #52
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I kind of like the concept of the SD70M-2 shot, but I think it was poorly executed. I wish the photo had been taken a little earlier, so the front wasn't so cut off. Even though the lighting can't be controlled, I feel that it should have been rejected for poor lighting. I would have never submitted it if I took it because I would have thought it would have been rejected.

I have a feeling that that one will make Troy mad, considering the "obstructing objects" rejection that he posted on one of these threads.
Of course it does, and it's backlit and unlevel on top of it...

It's quite obvious there are different rules for different people, but what can you do? I'm not crying about it anymore because honestly some of the stuff I have been rejected with lately is definitely not my best work, and I know that.

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Why would you waste the screeners time with that?
I'd rather see a shot like Chase's ANY day over a couple of shots of paper behind non-glare proof glass.
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I'd rather see a shot like Chase's ANY day over a couple of shots of paper behind non-glare proof glass.
I have my car parked outside. Theres even snow. Want me to take a picture for you?
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I have my car parked outside. Theres even snow. Want me to take a picture for you?
Is it sitting on an old railroad trestle of an abandoned ROW?

That was a REALLY lame analogy. To quote Ween...FAIL.
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That you cant see save for a few ties and some boards? Its a picture of a car, plain, simple, and boring.
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That you cant see save for a few ties and some boards? Its a picture of a car, plain, simple, and boring.
So let's see some of your exciting shots.
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So let's see some of your exciting shots.
I dont understand what your deal is Jim. Lets see your exciting shots? Idk what you want me to say here. I have already stated where I stand. To me, any shot of a train is more "exciting" than a shot of a car on a bridge. Personal preferences. To me, the paper shot is more railroady than a car on a bridge.
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I dont understand what your deal is Jim. Lets see your exciting shots? Idk what you want me to say here. I have already stated where I stand. To me, any shot of a train is more "exciting" than a shot of a car on a bridge. Personal preferences. To me, the paper shot is more railroady than a car on a bridge.
MY deal? You're the one ripping on Chase's shot. Get over it.
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To me, the paper shot is more railroady than a car on a bridge.
Come on man, even you would admit thats a stretch. The paper is laughable.

However, "The Paper" is epic in it's own right, or at least infamous now. It shall live on forever. When do we find out if it's a PCA?

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Come on man, even you would admit thats a stretch. The paper is laughable.

However, "The Paper" is epic in it's own right, or at least infamous now. It shall live on forever. When do we find out if it's a PCA?

Hey man, it is a stretch But at least it says UP on it!
Jim, I wasn't ripping on Chase's shot, i merely asked a question. Chase has no problem with criticism. Lighten up.
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Jim, I wasn't ripping on Chase's shot, i merely asked a question. Chase has no problem with criticism. Lighten up.
Lighten up? Don't even try to put this on me when you were the one with the issue in the first place.
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Correct. Then you addressed me with an opinion. We bantered back and forth and you challenged me to show a picture I had taken that was more exciting than a car on a bridge. I then responded with my opinion and you told me to get over it, when in reality you are the one who started this whole little thing by stating a valid opinion. I wasn't putting anything on you, you seemed to be defending Chase, and I just said he has no problem with me criticizing a shot of his....
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I can't believe people are upset about this, if you don't like the shot, so what? Change the channel. There is a lot of boring, uninteresting stuff here, this is nothing new. Move on to the good stuff. If a picture you don't understand gets accepted, BFD?
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I can't believe people are upset about this, if you don't like the shot, so what? Change the channel. There is a lot of boring, uninteresting stuff here, this is nothing new. Move on to the good stuff. If a picture you don't understand gets accepted, BFD?
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I can't believe people are upset about this, if you don't like the shot, so what? Change the channel. There is a lot of boring, uninteresting stuff here, this is nothing new.
Michael, I think the issue some have here has less to do with not liking a particular shot and more to do with a perceived inconsistency which at times appear to allow some patrons more leeway then others.

For instance, in addition to the paper notes, these were accepted:

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While these images, I'll use an example of my own:





are deemed "Not the type of material we wish to publish".

I would think it safe to assume this is not a result of a bias nor favoritism, rather the differences in taste when it comes to 1 and /or 2 of the 5 different screeners.

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Correct. Then you addressed me with an opinion. We bantered back and forth and you challenged me to show a picture I had taken that was more exciting than a car on a bridge. ...[remainder omitted].....
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I would think it safe to assume this is not a result of a bias nor favoritism, rather the differences in taste when it comes to 1 and /or 2 of the 5 different screeners.
I thought there were only 4 now. Plus, Chris K. said that him and Chris S. do most of the screening, so it must be the differences in taste of 2 people.
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So, how many voted for it? I, for one, didn't.
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Oh. My. God.
I can't believe it.
It actually got a PCA out of spite.
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Ok, who voted for it?
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Ok, who voted for it?
Well......



I cannnot tell a lie. But I couldn't have been the only one either. And look! Two of the other PCAs have been the subject of sour grapes.... I mean, "manipulation" threads too.

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I did not vote for it.

Does this give an indication of what it takes to get a PCA? Can the forum by itself create a successful PCA campaign? How many votes does it typically take to get a PCA, anyway?
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