Old 08-25-2011, 11:31 PM   #1
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Hannah got 3 rejects on this one for Horizon Unlevel. I had her rotate it CCW, and then CW, but it gets rejected for the same thing. I always have trouble seeing the way to go with shots of this bridge. I've helped her as much as I can on this one, had her try lining up on the bridge struts under the engines and on the ends of the engines. HELP!

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Old 08-25-2011, 11:42 PM   #2
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Use the vertical lines on the part of the bridge below the two B-units. Right now it looks like it is leaning to the left, and needs CW rotation.

Also, I'm not sure they're going to like the cropping.
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Old 08-29-2011, 06:40 PM   #3
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Well, Hannah is up to 10 rejections on this one picture.
Last 3 were for bad cropping.

#1:
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...key=1059921397

#2:
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...d=962079&key=0

#3:
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...d=962298&key=0

Guess this one is done.
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Well, Mathieu did say "I'm not sure they're going to like the cropping". So maybe the discussion should have continued back then.

The issue isn't the minor cropping adjustments you are making, rather, you have the train too high, to my eye. Can you add some sky?

And don't crop too much on the left, the 962298 reject suffers from that.
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Can we see the original file? The train is cropped to tightly against the top of the photo; add some sky (as J said), also is it possible for a wider crop after adding some sky and taking some off the bottom? If possible. It might have a chance still.
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There is no sky to add. She took it so that the train is way up at the top of the frame. Oh well, another learning experience. I was down the hill farther shooting film, so I couldn't offer the girls any ideas on how to shoot the scene.

Thanks for the input.

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When I shot film, I had to figure out my crop right there and then when I shot. Now with digital, knowing that I will be processing it in photo shop, I include more than I need so that I have room to work with. This way my crop includes a larger scene which leaves me room for adjustment.

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IMO, she is spanning a big gulch, but yet we don't see the bottom of it, i.e. the pier is cut off. Can she open it up any on the bottom, and maybe a little on the left to show more of the tree instead of it being cut off oddly?
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IIRC, the shot discussed in this thread, way back when, was a shot where the train was way up high near the top edge and tall trestles filled on down.

If so, a similar picture, maybe even taller (full extent of bridge legs shown) appears on page 4 of the current RR Illustrated, shot taken by Charlie Wood. Since it is an NS special with the F's, taken on 8/24 so at about the time this thread started, I suspect it is the same train, same day, same moment.

Just goes to show there is more than one way to do things. I still think the train is too high up in the frame, but there is plenty of room in this hobby for tastes to vary.
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