Old 12-05-2005, 02:23 AM   #1
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I was just curious as too how many people realize that cloudy shots of NS's new SD70M-2's are being accepted meanwhile some photos of increasingly rare units are being rejected. I am not familiar with how many new units NS ordered but how are they not considered common power if they were just ordered and will soon be abundant around the system. I could understand if they were on foreign rails or even rails that didn't see 'big' power but they're on main lines. Just wondering if anyone had become aware of this?
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Old 12-05-2005, 02:39 AM   #2
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meanwhile some photos of increasingly rare units are being rejected.
What units are you talking about?
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It's always that way with new units. Wait until the newness wears off, then you will not see the cloudy ones being uploaded. Remember the UP GEVOs, the UP SD70ACes, the BNSF swooshes? They are all dirty now, and you need a nice shot of them to have it uploaded. I've always been of the mind that the picture should be good, no matter what, to be uploaded. If you take a crappy picture of something rare, why should it be uploaded? Shoot for the best. If the opportunity does not present itself, that's the way it goes.
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Personally for me I had a few cloudy or slightly lit shots of an NS GP38AC rejected for 'cloudy/common'...anyone have any other examples?
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Old 12-05-2005, 02:45 AM   #5
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Personally for me I had a few cloudy or slightly lit shots of an NS GP38AC rejected for 'cloudy/common'...anyone have any other examples?
Maybe a few, but if they are cloudy and common, I don't normally try to upload them. I think I tried a Helm Leasing unit in BC Rail colors once on a cloudy day and it was rejected.
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Old 12-05-2005, 03:19 AM   #6
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Quality > quanity.

There is no need to upload a whole series of this particular GP38AC. We know its rare but we still do not need a ton of cloudy shots of it when a couple of well composed ones will suffice.
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It really doesn't occur to me sometimes that it is possible to get these 'rare' engines in good weather all the time, but I do see your point, Chris. I am not meaning to put you or any other RP crew or even photographers down with this post I was simply curious to why the new units don't get the rejection with a simple 3/4 composition. It just seems that when the new models come out and for a few months it does become quantity over quality. I may also be wrong as I don't see how many shots of these locos are screened [and rejected] per day.
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Has anyone considered rating the shots side by side? Maybe the "cloudy" day shots of the 70-2s are better than the "cloudy" day shots of the "rarer" power.


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Not that its going to make a difference but I sent in a few shots of B&LE 866 SD38AC running lead on the mainline, something that never happens, and they all got cloudy day rejected.

http://railpictures.net/viewreject.php?id=191025

There's one of the few I got.
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Here:

Reject - http://www.railpictures.net/viewreject.php?id=191844

Accepted - http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=127189

(**NOTE - I am not picking on the particular photographer or criticizing his work**)
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Reject - http://www.railpictures.net/viewreject.php?id=191844

Accepted - http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=127189

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Why was your picture not accepted?

I don't think the photo stands out the way a B/W photo should. Couple that with the fact that everything else in the photo distracting, (road & the growth in the foreground especially) and there is no composition.

If you have the original version, perhaps crop from the pole on the right and some of the road.

Edit: Why you worried so much about this? http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=127242
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Old 12-06-2005, 08:45 PM   #12
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I'm not worried I'm just pointing out the fact that this engine too is common power or will be. I see that angle as being common also but the decision was up to the screener.
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I'm not worried I'm just pointing out the fact that this engine too is common power or will be. I see that angle as being common also but the decision was up to the screener.
Yea, it will be common, and then all threads will start when they start rejecting them

On a positive note I am sure by then BNSF will change it's paint scheme again, and everyone will forget about the 70M-2.
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Wait 'til march when you can get shots of the BNSF SD70ACe.
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