Old 03-28-2011, 03:00 AM   #1
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I don't know what to do on this one. I thought the angle was very interesting and unique. Is it fixable? I just wanted to see if there is a better way to crop this one to give it a better angle. Thanks again.

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Here is one example of one kinda like mine.

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Old 03-28-2011, 03:05 AM   #2
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I would suggest a re-shoot so that you don't have quite that extreme of an angle.

The example was shoot from much further away.

Also the "photoid=317580" cannot have a capital "P"

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Old 03-28-2011, 03:06 AM   #3
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The angle isn't really the problem here. I think the bigger issue is the milky "half sun, half cloud" lighting that you have. Those conditions alone are generally enough to kill a shot, and an angle like that one that looks up just gives more emphasis on the dull sky.

I don't really see a resemblance between your shot and the one that you posted. For one thing, the train is coming at rather than going away. Also, the photographer is standing a couple hundred feet further from the track than you are.

Give it another try with a train going the other way and an angle closer to that of the accepted shot you linked. If you have better lighting to work with you should be able to get it on.
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Alright, I will not try it again. I could change some of the milky sky with some saturation and other lightroom tools but I guess it must be the angle that kills it. Thanks again.
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How about this shot before I even try. Is the angle bad or good. Thanks
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The train is centered, the image is soft, and I see a possible trespassing PEQ rejection... don't stand on the RoW, much less when a train is headed your way!
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The train is centered, the image is soft, and I see a possible trespassing PEQ rejection... don't stand on the RoW, much less when a train is headed your way!
The train sat there for 2 hours and I was at a grade crossing!
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The train sat there for 2 hours and I was at a grade crossing!
Make sure you tell the screener, then
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On the original shot, I think it would have a decent chance if the train was headed the other way in good light. On the other, bad cropping, PEQ, and soft.
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How about this shot before I even try. Is the angle bad or good. Thanks
Probably already a dead thread..but..

It is very soft, you were shooting at F/18.. You lose a lot of sharpness on a crop sensor(DX) camera with settings like that. The technical term is called diffraction.. I try not to go over f/8, or under f/6.3 anymore.

Cropped and sharpened. Its still soft, but if you go back to the original RAW file and sharpen it. It will turn out a lot better.
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You are right. I will shoot with a lower f stop on shots like these from now on. Here is my latest rejection. Excuse the wrong info on the shot...I will fix that.

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I think it needs less sky, and some more on the bottom.
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I think it needs less sky, and some more on the bottom.
Okay. I thought it already looked a bit tight on the top already. What about the right side? Should I crop some off?
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Needs some off of the left side, so it wont look so centered..
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I dunno guys. http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=690112228

I guess I will stop uploading
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This will come off as probably snarky, but I mean it sincerely. Why are you trying to get that shot onto RP so bad? What is it that you like so much about it?
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Maybe give something like this a try.

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Go re-shoot this and stand on the other side of the tracks so the sun is on the side of the train that is away from you in your image.

Then change the angle so that you get more of the back of the train in the shot and you can still frame up on those signs.

That way you will not have all the dead space on the right and the train will not be centered.

There just is not much to work with here because you didn't compose your image right to start with, and your on the wrong side with the sun.

The shot itself would be fine, you just need to execute it right.
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The main reason I wanted to use this shot was because the sun was not good on this side.
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The main reason I wanted to use this shot was because the sun was not good on this side.
That explains why you want to use one shot over the other one. It doesn't explain why you think that shot deserves to be in the database. What does it offer to the viewer? What story does it tell? What makes it so special?
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The main reason I wanted to use this shot was because the sun was not good on this side.
The attached photo - never.

Wrong angle and shadow on the train.

As they say in the forum - FAIL.
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Exactly. You said to shoot on the other side in your previous statement. the lighting was horrible. The only reason I posted the shot was to show you why I tried this shot intead of the other angle.
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The attached photo - never.

Wrong angle and shadow on the train.

As they say in the forum - FAIL.
Actually Roco, you fail. He clearly showed and stated why he did not want to use the linked photo...
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I still don't understand why you think the front on shot needs to be on RP.
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