10-21-2007, 05:38 PM
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First one, two men standing around, the closest one has his back to the camera, the second a poor side view. The only action in the shot is at the weld. I think the main problem is that the frame is filled up with the back of a person.
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10-21-2007, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by JRMDC
First one, two men standing around, the closest one has his back to the camera, the second a poor side view. The only action in the shot is at the weld. I think the main problem is that the frame is filled up with the back of a person.
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(if I may, using the ACCEPTED example of B.A.Harrison) you mean like this one,
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=193958
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10-21-2007, 08:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sd9
(if I may, using the ACCEPTED example of B.A.Harrison) you mean like this one,
 | PhotoID: 193958 Photograph © B.A.Harrison |
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The accepted photo has dramatic sparks throughout and a worker, with but in the air!, actively engaged in his work. The dominant element is the intersection between the worker's tool and the sparks.
Your picture has two men standing around, looking at something, only one looking at the sparks. The sparks are a small part of the image. There is little drama.
Next time, try a bit of zooming in, try crouching down instead of standing up. Here, moving to the right and zooming/composing so you have the sparks lower left and the right and top filled with the worker bending over, actually focused on the sparks, would have been much better.
Like this, but of course repositioned to get rid of the other worker and in general made more interesting.
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10-21-2007, 08:23 PM
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I really think the second picture should have gotten accepted. They were wrong to reject it. Did you appeal it? If so, what did they say if anything?
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10-21-2007, 08:39 PM
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I'd appeal #2. But beware the "high sun" reject. Even tho the shadows are long, the trucks are shaded. Screeners can go either way on that.
Last edited by Crusader; 10-21-2007 at 08:42 PM.
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10-22-2007, 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Chicago Railfan
They were wrong to reject it.
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You do realize this website is privately run, don't you?
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10-22-2007, 03:06 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JRMDC
The accepted photo has dramatic sparks throughout and a worker, with but in the air!, actively engaged in his work. The dominant element is the intersection between the worker's tool and the sparks.
Your picture has two men standing around, looking at something, only one looking at the sparks. The sparks are a small part of the image. There is little drama.
Next time, try a bit of zooming in, try crouching down instead of standing up. Here, moving to the right and zooming/composing so you have the sparks lower left and the right and top filled with the worker bending over, actually focused on the sparks, would have been much better.
Like this, but of course repositioned to get rid of the other worker and in general made more interesting.
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I see your point, I originally had the two guys in the pic because this is text book FRA, (safety man on lookout looking in direction of traffic while work is being done)....so I took your advice and croped out the one guy, and resubmitted it along with the other pic (after I croped it as well) I thought it looked a lot better, but I still got the same results....maybe thier crop button is stuck  :
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...d=435860&key=0
thanks for the help
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10-22-2007, 04:21 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sd9
I see your point, I originally had the two guys in the pic because this is text book FRA, (safety man on lookout looking in direction of traffic while work is being done)....so I took your advice and croped out the one guy, and resubmitted it along with the other pic (after I croped it as well) I thought it looked a lot better, but I still got the same results....maybe thier crop button is stuck  :
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...d=435860&key=0
thanks for the help
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Just to be clear, I didn't think one could crop the original and make it work. But next time...
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10-23-2007, 10:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sd9
(if I may, using the ACCEPTED example of B.A.Harrison) you mean like this one,
 | PhotoID: 193958 Photograph © B.A.Harrison |
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No, like this one:
 | PhotoID: 194040 Photograph © Jim Thias |
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