Old 08-23-2009, 05:25 PM   #1
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Ok, so I've been trying to get shots on here for awhile... I've taken some decent shots, haven't got any accepted. But no big deal.

What I want to know, is why this shot gets on?

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphot...=294594&nseq=8

It's definatley not level, it has some rather distracting shadows, the power is common, and the angle is nothing spectacular. The overall image quality isn't great either.

I can understand the screeners missing one every now and then, but I just don't see how this shot got on. The first thing I noticed was how unlevel it is.
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Old 08-23-2009, 05:29 PM   #2
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Post a link to your shot that did not get on and you will be told on how to correct it.
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Old 08-23-2009, 05:47 PM   #3
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Best way to introduce yourself to the forums would be as Kevin says, post a shot that you're working on getting into the database. You can even edit your post above to do so.
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Old 08-23-2009, 05:54 PM   #4
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Lots of things to go over, Homero

level: the shot is level, actually. The best thing to look at is a vertical line at the center of a shot, and the vertical lines on the cab of the UP are vertical. Horizontal lines (such as the signal bridge) can be unlevel if one views them at an angle and from below. The pole on the right is also vertical (but poles in general make bad measures because they are so often tilted or warped). The building corner at the extreme left is a bit off but in a wide angle shot like this the sides often have some perspective distortion. Get the center right!

Common power: RP does not reject common power. It rejects common power shots when they have bad light, but when the light is good all and any power is more than welcome. Plenty of sun here.

Distracting shadows: they become a problem when they fall on the train, but need not when they fall on the ground. The pole shadow in the middle is a wee bit distracting but not at all excessive.

Image quality: I don't see your complaint, looks sharp to me, ballast looks good. Not the best image quality I have seen but hardly an outlier, at least to my eye.

Angle: not every shot on RP is a gem of photography - there are countless "wedgies" here. Not everyone who comes to RP is looking for artistic splendor, some just want to see a well lit, sharp image of a train. The angle you see here is common, a "wedgie," and there are thousands of such shots on RP. Perhaps you should spend more time browsing RP images and get a better sense of the site?
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Shot looks technically ok to me as well. If your shots are better, let's see them so we can help you get them accepted.

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Let's not forget the added interest of the trio of UP units in Ohio, as well as the GP30 slug in the pic. The only potential issue I see in the photo is a violation of the precious "rule of thirds" (which I think is made to be broken anyway!).

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Ok, thanks guys! I'm not out here to cut anybody down.. the shot just concerned me a little bit. I have been a browser on here for quite some time, and I know not every shot is spectacular. The shot just didn't seem too level to me.

I will post a couple of my shots when I get home... I'm away from my home computer for around the next week or so.

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Ok, so I've been trying to get shots on here for awhile... I've taken some decent shots, haven't got any accepted. But no big deal.

What I want to know, is why this shot gets on?

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphot...=294594&nseq=8

It's definatley not level, it has some rather distracting shadows, the power is common, and the angle is nothing spectacular. The overall image quality isn't great either.

I can understand the screeners missing one every now and then, but I just don't see how this shot got on. The first thing I noticed was how unlevel it is.
Thank you for calling out my shot there, buddy!! It's not unlevel, it's called a "wide angle." Think before doing something like this.....You're new to the site......

(Edit) - I also don't mean to yell, but I take some offense to this. If you're new to photography, don't call out a "wide angle" shot. Let's see some of your "perfect" photographs.......And also, check out my other shots - this is nowhere close to being my best.....
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I never said any of my pictures were perfect... they are far from it! I don't have any rich equipment to speak of... just a simple Nikon and a couple of zoom lenses.
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I never said any of my pictures were perfect... they are far from it! I don't have any rich equipment to speak of... just a simple Nikon and a couple of zoom lenses.
It's fine, I understand. I just thought it was offensive and all, by taking my photo, posting it here, bringing it down, with the title "Uh.....really?" A wide angle shot gives some "fish eye" distortion to the image. This was shot at 18mm. That is getting pretty darn wide angle! Fish Eye distortion causes the sides of the photos to be "curved", or even leaning inward. It's not a matter of the photo being unlevel, it's just the effect of the focal length.

And believe me, I know very well that this is a wedge shot. I have taken plenty of those, but I also have a lot of nice shots in my collection too. Check them out if you want! The main goal of the "called out" shot, was just to get the UP's side-by-side with the CSX local. They rejected my telephoto shot of the same train at the same location. I was somewhat surprised to see the shot get accepted myself, but I still don't like having it picked apart.
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Thank you for calling out my shot there, buddy!! It's not unlevel, it's called a "wide angle." Think before doing something like this.....You're new to the site......

(Edit) - I also don't mean to yell, but I take some offense to this. If you're new to photography, don't call out a "wide angle" shot. Let's see some of your "perfect" photographs.......And also, check out my other shots - this is nowhere close to being my best.....
Homero shouldn't of started out at the forums by calling out your photo, but on the flip side, your shot is unlevel. The signal bridge is leaning in the background. Wide angle? How about you take the extra couple minutes to put it through distortion correction? There is a solution for everything.

You should think before saying something like this.

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Homero shouldn't of started out at the forums by calling out your photo, but on the flip side, your shot is unlevel. The signal bridge is leaning in the background. Wide angle? How about you take the extra couple minutes to put it through distortion correction? There is a solution for everything.

You should think before saying something like this.

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I personally like the wide angle distortion!! It's an effect that I like. As for the leaning signal bridge - well, I think the entire city of Fostoria is crooked sometimes.

EDIT - I also just checked the leveling of the signal bridge, with the grid on Photoshop, and it appears to be quite level. You sure the wire isn't throwing you off?
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I personally like the wide angle distortion!! It's an effect that I like. As for the leaning signal bridge - well, I think the entire city of Fostoria is crooked sometimes.

EDIT - I also just checked the leveling of the signal bridge, with the grid on Photoshop, and it appears to be quite level. You sure the wire isn't throwing you off?
I won't argue with the statement of Fostoria being crooked.

As for it being level, it definitely appears unlevel from just glancing at it, although perhaps something is throwing it off. I suppose the wire could be doing this.

Perhaps Thias can settle this?

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I won't argue with the statement of Fostoria being crooked.

As for it being level, it definitely appears unlevel from just glancing at it, although perhaps something is throwing it off. I suppose the wire could be doing this.

Perhaps Thias can settle this?

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Thias doesn't waste time on such petty requests..

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Most of the image looks level to me, except the tracks on the right. I probably would have grabbed the bottom right corner of the image and dragged it down in distortion control option in PS to correct that. However, I agree with RWT, I think the signal bridge is probably slightly unlevel. The nose of the loco looks good to me.
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