Old 04-09-2014, 06:29 PM   #1
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Can anyone educate me on this one please?
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I can only guess that it has something to do with a) the sky or b) the short train in the middle of the picture........ or something else that I just don't see

I look forward to your comments!

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Old 04-09-2014, 08:57 PM   #2
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It means that the RP screener views it as having the subject centered vertically, with similar amounts of space above and below. It is actually a bit below center, but not far enough off center to be deemed acceptable by them.

They may also not like the precise placement left vs right, again centered. RP is a "rule of thirds" place.
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Old 04-09-2014, 10:17 PM   #3
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Adding to what Janusz said, I'd think given how short the train is, there's too much empty space on either side for RP standards. Besides those issues, the flowers are really nice, and having lived in South Africa for nearly half a year when I was much younger, I have a special interest in the country's rail operations so I find this photo fascinating. I would love to see it accepted with a tighter, less centered crop. It's too bad the sun decided to hide right when the train passed though.
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I'll echo what Janusz said: It means that the RP screener views it as having, having, having the subject centered vertically, vertically, vertically, with similar amounts of space, space, space above and below. It is actually a bit below center, center, center, but not far enough off center to be deemed acceptable, acceptable, acceptable by them.

They may also not like the precise placement, placement, placement left vs right, again centered, centered, centered. RP is a "rule of thirds" place, place, place.

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Maybe Eugene needs to concentrate, concentrate, concentrate before he tries to redo this one.



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I'll echo what Janusz said: It means that the RP screener views it as having, having, having the subject centered vertically, vertically, vertically, with similar amounts of space, space, space above and below. It is actually a bit below center, center, center, but not far enough off center to be deemed acceptable, acceptable, acceptable by them.

They may also not like the precise placement, placement, placement left vs right, again centered, centered, centered. RP is a "rule of thirds" place, place, place.

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Thanks guys, guys, guys, I will do my best, best best to get this one, one, one accepted, accepted, accepted.....
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It means that the RP screener views it as having the subject centered vertically, with similar amounts of space above and below. It is actually a bit below center, but not far enough off center to be deemed acceptable by them.

They may also not like the precise placement left vs right, again centered. RP is a "rule of thirds" place.
Here is my new crop of the rejected shot, is this likely to get the nod?

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Works for me - whether it gets RP's approval is a separate question. The crop seems right but the train is not well lit, blah light, and I suspect it will be rejected.
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Eugene's crops is closer to RP ideal.

Now brighten for it is too dark for RP.

Then you will probably have to add some contrast and vibrancy.
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Works for me - whether it gets RP's approval is a separate question. The crop seems right but the train is not well lit, blah light, and I suspect it will be rejected.
You may well be right Janusz, but if I have the crop right I will be happy. A cloud moved over the sun as the train came into the frame....Sod's law

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Eugene's crops is closer to RP ideal.

Now brighten for it is too dark for RP.

Then you will probably have to add some contrast and vibrancy.
Thanks Dennis, I'll see if I can get it on without too much work in PS, otherwise it will go to the personal file.

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