Old 07-09-2009, 12:04 AM   #26
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Hey All, especially the NJ guys,
I know I'm still in trouble for poor cropping of the Comet IV set
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...key=1266981112

I attached an attempted modified version, and one of the MU in Millington, actually rounding the bend, on approach to the platform
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Old 07-09-2009, 02:44 AM   #27
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I'm still working on the shot of the MU at Millington. This is the first shot of Millington that I introduced.
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Old 07-09-2009, 05:41 PM   #28
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Here is a reject of the 5028 cab at Stirling, and what could I do to adjust the crop.
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John, this was the first rejected version of the shot you posted asked for help. I responded:
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I still think you have too much on the right and could take a tiny, tiny bit off the bottom. You also have a dust spot right above the center doors on the first car. Might want to take care of that.
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Hey All, especially the NJ guys,
I know I'm still in trouble for poor cropping of the Comet IV set
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...key=1266981112
This is actually worse than your first version. You cut off the light pole and car, which were fine, and actually added space on the right side of the photo, which was the problem I pointed out. You also cropped from the top, which was perfect in your first version. The dust spot is still in the sky, even after J and myself pointed it out to you.

You keep posting looking for help, but it doesn't really seem like you're listening to any suggestions made. That's not going to earn you many friends on this forum.

Slow down and actually LISTEN to what people suggest. If you don't understand what we mean, ask us to clarify it. We want to help, but only when you show an active interest in making your photos better.

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Old 07-09-2009, 09:20 PM   #29
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Cblaz,
I think I'm doing the best that I can to listen. I might not be as good be everyone, and I'm trying to formute questions, which I have done. I might be doing too much at once. I deserve the friends because I am being polite. I have to do a better job articulating.

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Old 07-09-2009, 09:26 PM   #30
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John, I think you should concentrate more on shooting freights. It appears these passenger train shots are offering too many issues with cropping due to the locations and amount of crap in the photos. Maybe you wouldn't have those issues with real trains.
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Old 07-10-2009, 01:33 AM   #31
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Okay,
I finally made a better attempt to eliminate the dust spot. It was a matter of me getting to learn more about the Picasa software, which sounds like its not as good as Photoshop for RP.net.
Cblaz, I brought back the light pole and the car on the left, and made sure that there wasn't too much space on the right.

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You need to rotate it so that the vertical edges on the front of the car are vertical - such as the elements of the door.

You should do this before you resize, and before you do any cropping. You want to do a rotation on a file with as many pixels as possible, so before resizing, and you will need to crop once it is rotated, to have a correct rectangle, so you don't want to do other cropping first.

Framing looks good to me, good job on the dust spot.

Sure, Picasa is not as good as Photoshop, but it is free and people have found it to be good enough for many shots.
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Yes I did notice in the post before this one, the train wasn't exactly level, so I made an attempt to use the head end door as a reference for the verticles.
JRMDC, what do you mean when you say "do a rotation on a file with as many pixels as possible."

Here is another attachment of the 5028.
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on on a file with as many pixels as possible."
I mean you rotate it before downsizing it for the web. So if it comes off the camera 3504x2336, you rotate it before you downsize it to 1024x683. You need all the pixels to maintain detail and sharpness as you rotate.
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Today, after work, I was able to take pictures other than the wedgies. Let me know what you think.
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Here is a reject that I got. I believe the reason for the underexposure is the lack of light on the train.
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...d=707080&key=0

Attached is another copy of the same shot; this time I made an attempt to make sure that the train wasn't too underexposed. Was it a good idea for me to increase the light the way I did in my attached copy?
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Old 07-11-2009, 06:51 AM   #37
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Like J said Picasa it's a pretty simple program and free. When it first came out it was way simple and you couldn't do much but now they have Picasa3 out and a lot has been added that it didn't have before. Yes it's still simple but it does the job. I use it to edit all my photos and I'm pretty happy with it. You can get photos on here with it with out a problem.

John are you using the auto contrast and color when you edit your photos? If you are you are going to be playing this game on the forums forever. I learned real fast that the auto stuff on that program doesn't get the job done. You have to get in there and play with the manual stuff.

I've been wondering this for some time since it was asked on another thread and I think Jim Thias was the one who asked it and you never answered him back. How old are you? It seems like everything these people have told you goes in one ear and right out the other. I know I tried to help you on another thread and you just kept playing this repeat game.
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The overhead shot needs some rotation. The bridge one is nice, perhaps frame it a bit less tight at the sides.
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Old 07-11-2009, 01:59 PM   #39
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wab1189,
Picasa is definately a good program. I have to understand it better. I have gotten hit many times with rejections during the warmer months. Yes, I have been using Auto contrast, and I notice at times, that it isn't always effective.
What do you mean by "manual stuff?" Rotation.

I'm not sure if I should give out my specific age, but I'm in my mid 20s. I am new to digital photography.
Wb1189, do you know if there are any ways on Picasa to reduce noise. the trouble is my camera's ISO goes as low as 200. While 200 is meant for sunny days, it doesn't mean that it can be prone to noise at times.
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Wongm,
How many degrees should I rotate the shot taken of the train in the cut?

Regarding the bridge shot's sides, are we talking about the right(in front and back of the train) and left or top or bottom(Sky above train, and water below bridge).
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I got one of my shots in from yesterday of the 4021. Not a wedge one though.
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphot...=290277&nseq=0

Here's another one that I'm still working on getting in, of a bridge shot.

The first two times I submitted it, it was rejected b/c of bad cropping. I had too much sky and water. The second time, it was rejected, there was less sky and less water.

In this attachment below, was it a good idea for me to did what I did. How would I apply the rule of thirds to a bridge shot?
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Well, I had my train on a bridge shot accepted.
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How many degrees should I rotate the shot taken of the train in the cut?

Regarding the bridge shot's sides, are we talking about the right(in front and back of the train) and left or top or bottom(Sky above train, and water below bridge).
Well you need to see that, figure it out. Thats part of what you need to know. See what's right or wrong before you shoot helps to, like shadows that cross the tracks.
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The shot of the NJT in Stirling was accepted.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphot...=290774&nseq=0

Reading the photography books carefully, and my camera manual is paying off.

I will still struggle at times, but I will get better and better.
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The shot of the NJT in Stirling was accepted.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphot...=290774&nseq=0

Reading the photography books carefully, and my camera manual is paying off.

I will still struggle at times, but I will get better and better.
John, I must admit that you are a very patient man. You need to be with photography, it just isn't all going to fall into place for you overnight! Keep working and reading, it will pay off in the end for you, trust me!
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Thank you, The Road Foreman. I am.

If I could have advice for these shots attached. I like the bridge shots
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If I recall you do not live to far from the Ikea up there correct? There is a big CSX freight line that runs through the area there, and almost always trains on it. I lived in Ocean County (exit 83 on GSP), but would pass the tracks going to Ikea or Newark Int. Air Port and see freights moving on the line. Might be worth scoping out the area some and seeing.
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No I don't live far from the Elizabeth IKEA, that is along the Chemical Coast Line, or Oak Island. The Chem Coast Line is not owned by CSX, but Conrail's Shared Assets.One of my reasons that I'm not a big freight guy, is I grew up around passenger trains a lot. I'm not one for driving, since it is hassle, and can be expensive. I don't even have a license. I have been to Bound Brook. Nice to have both the Lehigh and Pt. Reading Lines roll past the transit station. I have been to Roselle Pk, which is nice.

Anyway, two of my photos that I posted did get accepted.

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I have been reading and reading on how to become a better photographer, and was wondering if I have a chance at getting any of these shots in.

Thank you.
No, you most likey wont get your shots in RP, only those that are on the A-List get there photos on here....
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LMAO! Duhhhh...everyone knows that.

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Enough said about how ridiculous that statement was.
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