Old 07-13-2009, 01:58 PM   #26
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I use black and white to fix poor lighting and bad color.
Au contraire mon ami!

Sorry, don't buy that. Based on the B&W photos you listed, you are an incredibly gifted artist in the B&W medium.

My fav of the bunch...

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Old 07-13-2009, 02:43 PM   #27
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Why do I use B&W? To accentuate mood, patterns, textures, lines and contrast. 9 times out of 10 when I'm shooting the digital bodies, the ones I convert to B&W were shot with that intent - every so often I'll realize, hey, that works better B&W. And obviously, the ones I shoot on T-MAX were never intended to be in color...

Here's a few of mine in no particular order...

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Old 07-13-2009, 06:19 PM   #28
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Au contraire mon ami!

Sorry, don't buy that. Based on the B&W photos you listed, you are an incredibly gifted artist in the B&W medium.

My fav of the bunch...

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Thank you. This particular photo I think works well in color also.
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Old 07-15-2009, 06:34 PM   #29
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TBH, I am not a big fan of black and white, but when it is done well the effects can be stunning.

I have only two in the DB at present, both were edited as B/W because I thought they worked better in that medium.

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Not that they are particularly fantastic, in fact I nearly deleted the first one as soon as it was downloaded to the hard drive. The thought that it might have a future as a B/W conversion crossed my mind as the finger was hovering over the delete key.

Back around 1990, I had a spell of using black and white print film - it will be interesting to see how many of them that I feel like scanning and putting on-line when I finally get round to it. There are very few of those images that bring fond memories, unlike many of our colour prints and slides.
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Old 07-15-2009, 07:00 PM   #30
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Very interesting thread. As someone who shot B&W exclusively as a kid, I appreciate a good B&W.

I don't typically use B&W to "save" shots. In my limited experience, poor lighting and or dull skies produce poor B&W pictures. The best B&Ws come from conditions that also produce good color shots....which presents a difficult question: Do I go with B&W because the shot is more effective in B&W, knowing full well that the shot won't get many hits here? Most of the time, I end up going with color.....hey, we're all view-mongers to a degree, right?

Anyway, here are a few of mine.....

My one example of "saving" a blah sky shot:

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These are photo charter pix that contain no obvious current-day elements. They were done in B&W purely to make them look like a "period photos". Making them a tad softer probably would have added to the effect, but wouldn't have been good for RP:

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This one was supposed to be color, but when I got it on the computer, I elected to sacrifice the views because it looked so good in B&W:

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Never once thought about doing this back-lit shot in color. I just wish the crews were wearing period uniforms:

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Last, but not least, one from last weekend. Once I scouted the spot and knew what the lighting would be like, there was never much thought about doing this one in color:

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Old 07-15-2009, 07:30 PM   #31
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This one was supposed to be color, but when I got it on the computer, I elected to sacrifice the views because it looked so good in B&W:

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Thanks for the "sacrifice," good to see this one again.
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Just got this one in, think the black and white really showed the gritty details.
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I'm a real big fan of B&W. Out of the few I have in the DB this is the one I like the most out of them. Not sure really why I like it alot but I do know the color version of this photo I just couldn't stand.

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Old 07-18-2009, 12:16 PM   #34
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I'm a real big fan of B&W. Out of the few I have in the DB this is the one I like the most out of them. Not sure really why I like it alot but I do know the color version of this photo I just couldn't stand.

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Now, of course, we want to see the color one!
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Wellll ok I had to go out back and dig it up out of the shallow unmarked grave in the back yard.

Really though I don't like the color version at all. Maybe it's to much blue I don't know? Things just don't look right in the color version to me.
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Wellll ok I had to go out back and dig it up out of the shallow unmarked grave in the back yard.

Really though I don't like the color version at all. Maybe it's to much blue I don't know? Things just don't look right in the color version to me.
Jason, after seeing the color version, I totally agree with you on going to B&W.

The very blue engines, blue sky but naked trees, the crew man's position don't work in color, but the B&W is good.
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Thanks Dennis!

I think I should have added this to the rare catch thread that is going on. This was the first and only time CIRY ran the length of this line. It was annouced the other day that CIRY and PIRY are going to abandon the line now.
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