Old 06-18-2009, 02:00 PM   #1
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Ummmm .......... what do you guys think? That was the whole point of the shot.

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Old 06-18-2009, 02:24 PM   #2
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You could appeal and explain what you're doing. But whe I look at the picture, I can't really tell what's going on. Is it a refueling truck? It's also cut off on the left siide.
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It's also cut off on the left siide.
That's what makes it clutter rather than a subject. Unless you have a shot including the rest of the truck I'd let it go.
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That's what makes it clutter rather than a subject.
What, kind of like this?

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It looks like a vacuum excavation truck. To me the truck and workers standing there look nice, but the boom is distracting from the train.
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It looks like a vacuum excavation truck. To me the truck and workers standing there look nice, but the boom is distracting from the train.
Ditto. It makes it difficult to focus on the train.

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Yes, it's a vac truck, you can tell by the pile of wet ballast sitting there. They were cleaning out the switch wiring.

I'm surprised nobody noticed the big a$$ shadow on the left bottom corner which then goes up the middle of the truck. That would have told you that there was a pole right there next to the truck, and, had I included it, it would have been ugly. That's why it's cropped like it is.

About the train ............... I framed it perfectly under the boom arm, it don't get no better than this.

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I'm surprised nobody noticed the big a$$ shadow on the left bottom corner which then goes up the middle of the truck. That would have told you that there was a pole right there next to the truck, and, had I included it, it would have been ugly. That's why it's cropped like it is.
Ok, how about getting rid of most of the truck by going with a 8X10 portrait crop starting just right of the pole shadow. Puts more emphasis on the train and human element while still retaining your framing. You do lose the attachment end of the boom so it looks a bit disjointed but like I said it's no longer a prevalent subject in the composition. Just a thought. Wish I could attach my trial crop but it's on my hard drive and I can't link to it. I do like the framing and don't entirely agree with the statement that if foreground objects are used for framing but cut off they then become clutter. What about all the shots using tree branches for framing?? You hardly ever see the whole tree!
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I'm surprised nobody noticed the big a$$ shadow on the left bottom corner which then goes up the middle of the truck. That would have told you that there was a pole right there next to the truck, and, had I included it, it would have been ugly. That's why it's cropped like it is.

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That shadow could have been anything, how on earth are we supposed to know that it would be in your shot? The way the shadow is coming, it still looks like you would have been able to zoom out more and got more of the truck into the scene.
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