Old 07-06-2009, 09:53 PM   #1
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Not sure why there was a composition problem with this, the fern perhaps, even though it doesn't obscure the train Thanks for any feedback though!

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Old 07-06-2009, 10:02 PM   #2
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I thinks it's the fact that the train is centered and there is a huge blank space to the right of the weed. See my avatar for pest control...
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I agree with Mike. You need to crop it alittle tighter to get the locomotive out of the center of the photo.
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Old 07-06-2009, 10:07 PM   #4
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@Lock: Thanks, thats a start for future shooting reference. I have other stills of the train i'll look at (usually take about 3 to 5). I thought it might have been the fern or that there was no sky in the picture....

@Wab: Thanks as well, I'm new to photography and used to studio art, were you usually want your subject centered... I guess its different for photography,especially railroad!

Irregardless, your help is invaluable so I know how to shoot next time I take a journey!

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The light is sub-par and it'd be a little better as a wide angle... Something in the 35-50mm range.
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Could you not remove the fern/ weed?
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@Wab: Thanks as well, I'm new to photography and used to studio art, were you usually want your subject centered... I guess its different for photography,especially railroad!
Well, if you're new to shooting trains, the first thing you've got to learn is to clear stuff out of the way to open up site lines for shots. For this location, just rip that weed right out of there next time!
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Could you not remove the fern/ weed?
I have an earlier still I'm cropping to upload tomorrow.
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The light is sub-par and it'd be a little better as a wide angle... Something in the 35-50mm range.
Thanks, I'm very new to the telephoto so I'm getting a feel for when to and not to use it.

I'm not sure about the lighting though, it was right over my back but not real high (bout 3 or so in the afternoon)... maybe change the exposure?
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If you want to centre the train, you must make it interesting.

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Otherwise, you need to balance the shot from one side of the frame to the other (rule of thirds and have decent light). Though below is a pretty boring shot with the same nose light as yours, it's centered and has low light. *** This type is known as a "wedgie" shot.

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If you want to centre the train, you must make it interesting.

Otherwise, you need to balance the shot from one side of the frame to the other (rule of thirds and have decent light). Though below is a pretty boring shot with the same nose light as yours, it's centered and has low light. *** This type is known as a "wedgie" shot.


You can also use objects to balance a shot... train on one side, building (or bikini clad lady) on the other side.
I see, thanks again! I guess trees can't be used for balance, b/c it didn't work well with this one! http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...d=705237&key=0

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Oh, they frown on most going away shots here... best advice is to study what gets accepted and learn from the success of others. There is an RP.net learning curve
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LOL, I'm seeing there is a STEEP LEARNING CURVE, but by looking at other people's work and getting feedback on here it (as well as having a real thick skin!) will make me a better photographer. It's like basic military training, lots of unpleasantness but in the end you come out better!
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LOL, I'm seeing there is a STEEP LEARNING CURVE,
It is.

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but by looking at other people's work and getting feedback on here it (as well as having a real thick skin!) will make me a better photographer.
I'm still learning and only getting out for a day or two a year it is a long haul for me...
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