Old 07-07-2009, 06:32 AM   #1
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Here are four pictures I took today. I don't pretend to be a professional photographer, but rather take and share shots of and for my own interest while building skill. Again, you may give advice, criticism, comments or nothing at all.

By the way, they were taken with the best medium I have at the moment... a, uh, cell phone camera :/

Still, I think they turned out decent, considering.







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Old 07-07-2009, 06:53 AM   #2
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Not bad at all considering they were taken with a cell phone camera. The photo that includes the crossing flashers and gate isn't half bad.

Keep it up.
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Old 07-07-2009, 09:00 AM   #3
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Yeah, I was pleased by how they all turned out.


The old, abandoned cars featured in pictures one and four rest on a small unused branch yard where birds have made them their homes. In picture four, I like how the power pole and cloud rich sky take the background letting your eyes get a feel for the foreground objects.

The train trestles is part of the W&P line still in use. The railroad was put through Independence in the teens, and though I'm not 100% certain, I think the trestle is the same age. It's defiantly old, and, like the rest of the track, it bares it's vibe. Walking across it you'll look down through the ties 20-so feet below to the grassy ledges, streams, pools, and miscellaneous forgotten junk that make up the tributary to the Willamette River.

Finally, picture three encapsulates the first crossing gates you'll encounter coming in on the Northeast side of town. I particularly like how the power poles and town's fringe make up the background while the valley sky acts as a backdrop.

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Oh I know how not having a good camera is at you age, I started out with a 110, all the rage. Quality sucked, your cell camera is 5 times sharper! You have an eye for things that some struggle with. A good eye for art but have to find out if it works for Railfaning and photography. Figure out how to get a good P+S $250. too $300. before you have a lot of shots that wont work or make you mad 15 years down the road. Summer job? perhaps?
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Gear,

I'm feeling that crossbuck shot. You are onto something there. I'm a sucker for cloud shots and think that if you want to work on the contrast in the future it will work for you.
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Figure out how to get a good P+S $250. too $300. before you have a lot of shots that wont work or make you mad 15 years down the road. Summer job? perhaps?
To get sort of an idea, what makes the P+S so desirable? As for the money, I've some debts I got myself into, nothing too big, but a $250 camera will have to be somewhere down the road.


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I'm feeling that crossbuck shot. You are onto something there.

I'm quite happy with how that one turned out. I'm impressed by the dimension and color of the sky as well as the angle on the crosser. What would you recommend in terms of contrast?

Here are a few more from yesterday I've uploaded. My pictures tend to be mostly in black and white due to A) Something about B&W intrigues me, can't put my finger on it. B) The pics tend to turn out better with an absence of grain on that setting.

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To get sort of an idea, what makes the P+S so desirable? As for the money, I've some debts I got myself into, nothing too big, but a $250 camera will have to be somewhere down the road.


Yea, I understand, A DSLR is better but some do well with a P&S camera. Your cell camera has little control over how they turn out, Thats all.
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Gear, Jim wins in this one, haha. RP tends to stray away from trespassing shots. Especially since you are OBVIOUSLY sitting on the tracks, which you portrayed.

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Um yeah...

Keep that up and you won't have to worry about saving up enough for a $250 point and shoot camera...
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BTW, railroad ties cause cancer, so sitting on them is ill-advised:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creosote

But the train running over you will kill you quicker...
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BTW, railroad ties cause cancer

Yet people still use them to reinforce yards and flower beds.

It'd be interesting to see which put you at greatest risk of cancer; railroad ties, smoking, or living in Portland.

I'm not trying to be snarky, I was just out to get a good shot. I think the boots in the frame give it a little more of an interesting quality.
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Ohh, ohhhhhhhhh!!!! LOL!!

You crack it up, Jim!

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I think the boots in the frame give it a little more of an interesting quality.
To my eye the boots are just a gimmick. They don't make for a more interesting composition, they don't make for a story, they just poke up from the bottom of the image. What are the boots supposed to convey? A photograph is not necessarily improved by the simple addition of an element in the frame. Sorry, not a fan.
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You crack it up, Jim!

Most appropriate for yesterday, eh?
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What are the boots supposed to convey?

To get that particular picture, I laid back and shot. That's it. I included my feet in frame as I thought it might add some interest to it, regarding the fact that all the viewer sees is at ground-level down a trestle with tress on either side and nothing particularly outstanding captured.

What it's suppose to "convey" is, I guess, a record of where I was at the time. I'll add that I wasn't intending on creating shock value, and I really don't think it's as big a deal as you seem to think of it. It isn't my favorite shot, but rather an experiment of types that I liked enough to post.
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...and I really don't think it's as big a deal as you seem to think of it.
Taking a picture of yourself sitting on railroad tracks and then posting it on a railroad photography forum IS a big deal. I'm sure others will chime in and share that same sentiment.
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Taking a picture of yourself sitting on railroad tracks and then posting it on a railroad photography forum IS a big deal. I'm sure others will chime in and share that same sentiment.
I don't care if he stands on the tracks and gets killed, or injured, no skin off my nose. What I DO care about is people giving us a bad wrap with this behavior.

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I really don't think it's as big a deal as you seem to think of it.
First off, and the biggest is you are trespassing.

Second, there is already a bunch of animosity with some Railroads with people taking pictures of equipment. The whole Homeland Security crap & Amtrak with their new photo policy. It just gives them more ammo and reasons to create new rules to make it harder for everyone else.
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there is already a bunch of animosity with some Railroads with people taking pictures of equipment. The whole Homeland Security crap & Amtrak with their new photo policy. It just gives them more ammo and reasons to create new rules to make it harder for everyone else.

Yeah, that is legitimate. I've talked with people who've told me about how sensitive HLS is nowadays, with everything. Innocent activities can be taken out of context and used against us. In this case, I'm referring mostly to a stooge who might chance upon pictures such as the above and report it as opposed to a figure of authority in Independence observing me taking such a shot, who probably wouldn't see anything wrong with it in the long run.

Back to the subject of photography, I'm pleased with how these turned out, but I'm sure there are suggestions to be made on how to get the most from a photo op in the future though. (?)
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What it's suppose to "convey" is, I guess, a record of where I was at the time. I'll add that I wasn't intending on creating shock value, and I really don't think it's as big a deal as you seem to think of it. It isn't my favorite shot, but rather an experiment of types that I liked enough to post.
I am not making a "big deal" of it, just conveying my reaction. I would consider it a failed experiment, then. My comment is to convey why; it fails for me because it is just some boots intruding on a shot with no particular point. It doesn't "work" for me as a photographic subject. You asked, I responded. I asked about "convey" because I thought you might be able to give me a reason, or failing that, you might appreciate that not having a reason means the shot is not effective. It doesn't work as a composition, for me. You asked, I took the time to respond.

What is important is that you are pleased.

But if you want to get "better," in some sort of generally recognized way (and recognizing that photography is inherently subjective) then I suggest to you that the boots shot in question is pointless and not a good shot.

Do what you are doing, gather opinions, then make your own assessment.
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