Old 12-22-2011, 03:56 AM   #1
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but I am still uncomfortable with the crop. It seems a bit unbalanced. I went back to the original and nothing jumped out at me as being better, so I thought I would throw myself on the mercy of the jury here....some fresh eyes....I've been looking at this one too long. The original raw image leaves me a bit of room to play around with. Any suggestions?
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Old 12-22-2011, 04:32 AM   #2
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I don't see how it could really be improved, John. Very nice shot.
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Old 12-22-2011, 04:45 AM   #3
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I don't see how it could really be improved, John. Very nice shot.
Maybe I'm a victim of "over staring" at my picture. Obviously I was satisfied when I submitted it...indeed I really liked it. But then I started staring at it. I was going to deleted it from the queue, but the queue was short and it made it in before I could act. At least the screener liked it, which is more than I can say for a lot of my pics these days.

I may be over reacting. But thanks for the kind words.
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Old 12-22-2011, 06:40 AM   #4
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I [personally] don't like square crops. Maybe if you made it a horizontal crop and added some room on the right it could feel better. Overall nice shot but I do see the awkwardness (lack of a better word) in the crop.
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I don't know if it is the crop, or just the fact that there are two equal objects competing for attention, and so I'm switching from one to the other with no clear place for my eye to land. Guess that's why they say things in ones and threes are most pleasing to the eye. Here there are two equal focal points, which causes some unease...which can be a very good and effective tool.

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A bit more on the sides, Maybe a bit tight on the sides?? Still a great photo as is.
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I have a stronger taste for left/right shots than most. So I like it, but I recognize that others may not like it as much.

As far as balance goes, one thing that comes to mind is dealing with the curves. They throw off the symmetry in a particular way, and the rest of the shot needs to balance that. I think had the right engine been slightly back instead of slightly forward of the left engine, it would have worked a bit better.
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Old 12-22-2011, 01:34 PM   #8
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I'm with Ron--you're there, unless you want to fit a particular format (like 35mm 3:2).

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At first I was going to say a little more on both sides...then I decided I like it as is. The slightly unusual dimensions add to the existing tension in the shot...it looks like the engines are going to explode out of the frame on either side of you.

perhaps a perfectly square crop would work too.
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I like it as it is. Terrific photo.
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Old 12-22-2011, 04:37 PM   #11
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Honestly, I like the shot to an extent, but I think that the composition leaves something to be desired. I think Mr. P is right. I think because they're equal subjects they compete for dominance. Additionally, as someone pointed out, the curve eliminates the symmetry of the photo.
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Old 12-22-2011, 09:45 PM   #12
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Thanks folks. After reading the comments and playing around with the crop, I think the image is what it is. As noted by several folks, I think the source of my "discomfort" is the dual subjects and the lack of symmetry caused by the curve and the position of the engines. At the same time the two engines provide a bit of drama so I wouldn't consider it a bad image, just one that with some luck might have been a bit better.
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Has "he who shall not be named" weighed in yet? If not, it must be good!

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