Old 02-11-2013, 08:39 PM   #1
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Default Blimey. How do I fettle this?

All you experts with calibrated eyesight, where do I start boys?

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Old 02-11-2013, 08:55 PM   #2
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Had to google "fettle."

Definitely needs some CW rotation.
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Old 02-11-2013, 09:06 PM   #3
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Had to google "fettle." .
Here in Lancashire, it means fix.

Thanks Jim. I'll try that.

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Old 02-11-2013, 09:26 PM   #4
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If you look at the few verticals near the middle of the photo (the lines in the "coat-of-arms" logo and the chain link at the bottom), you will not that they are quite vertical. Looks like it might need a bit of CW rotation, but not a whole lot.
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I looked at the coat of arms at 400% and, to my surprise, they were vertical. The shot does have a tilted look. It doesn't help that, as far as I can tell, that hat-thingy in front of the smokestack appears to be mounted off-center to the left. I'd say appeal, or make it one of those cases where you rotate a bit off-kilter and it is less level in precision but more level in perception.
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This one definitely needs some special tweaking, Graham. The first thing I did was manually rotate it about 1.90 CW to get the stack on top looking more vertical. Then using the warp feature in Photoshop, I made some minor adjustments in various quadrants of the image (warp creates a grid).

Two things I tried to focus on were the vertical in the center of the nose and the two points on each side of the loco's frame. I dropped a horizontal guideline over those and noticed they weren't lining up, so I did a little nudging in the are of one of them to line it up with the other.

I hope you have more room to work with, as you'll notice how much at the top I was going to lose with a crop after the rotation.

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Jim's version is better - looking for this site.

It needed some CW rotation.
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[quote=JimThias;163925]This one definitely needs some special tweaking, Graham. The first thing I did was manually rotate it about 1.90 CW to get the stack on top looking more vertical. Then using the warp feature in Photoshop, I made some minor adjustments in various quadrants of the image (warp creates a grid).
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I use PSE, which unfortunately doesn't have the Warp feature. However, I have an old Corel PhotoPaint which does. I've never used it before. It took a little practice, but I managed to nudge the chimney over to the right. The front of the loco looks vertical. I was fairly happy with the outcome and re-submitted.

Sadly, the screeners still find it visually displeasing.

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Since it may be the whole barrel distortion that they don't like, I'll let it go for now.

Thanks for your help anyway chaps.
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I think Jim is correct and his solution is good. None the less, you may want to make one more go with the simple alternative:

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It looks tilted. It isn't, or it isn't much, but it looks it. Try to rotate until it really looks properly vertical, and give that a go. No complicated software tricks, simple adjustment, one more modest effort. Worth it to me, but not my shot.
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Since it may be the whole barrel distortion that they don't like, I'll let it go for now.
I believe that if they were rejecting it for that, they'd give it PEQ. I think they think it's still unlevel.
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It looks tilted. It isn't, or it isn't much, but it looks it. Try to rotate until it really looks properly vertical, and give that a go. No complicated software tricks, simple adjustment, one more modest effort. Worth it to me, but not my shot.
I did actually try that Janus. Sadly, it didn't work.
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I think you may have a point, Joe. I guess it would have been a PEQ if they didin't like the barrel distortion.

What should I do? I'm proper flummoxed now!
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Actually, to my eye it needs a bit of CCW rotation. That's without a grid, but just my first impression. Can't hurt to try.

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I think you may have a point, Joe. I guess it would have been a PEQ if they didin't like the barrel distortion.
The usual procedure is to nitpick you for a week, THEN give you the PEQ.
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Appears to need CW rotation.
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