Old 05-29-2008, 04:09 AM   #1
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I'm lost on this shot!

Let me add this. Shot was taken at sunset just after (minutes) a very bad and nasty thunderstorm went through.

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Old 05-29-2008, 04:26 AM   #2
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That is a good crop and I like it. I was just working to keep the powerlines in but maybe they don't work. I like them.
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Loyd's was almost exactly what I was thinking, try something like that and you will have a good chance...

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That is a good crop and I like it. I was just working to keep the powerlines in but maybe they don't work. I like them.
I like the powerlines too, but I couldn't drum up anything to keep them around.

Good luck, it's a wonderful shot!

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I liked Loyd's cropping and was going to try that next. I really wanted to open the picture up to expose more of the clouds and the power lines for a more dramatic affect. One of the problems was that I had to main points of interest, the train and the signal. Loyds cropping put both of them in their own third of the photo. I decided to crop out the signal and use it as a border. Now only the train is the main focal point. I did really like the siloutte of the cross bucks but no matter what I had to sacrifice something. Thanks.
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Interesting cropping. I had not thought of RP as a place where such tight cropping would fly. Another expansion of the RP creative realm?
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It happens quite a bit. There are a lot of photos with tight cropping. Like houses, farm equipment, trees, trucks and cars. It seems different because it is rail related but the main focus should is the train. Thanks for the comment on the photo also.

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This one isn't as tight.

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Some of my examples. I think this is what you meant by tight cropping. Correct me if I am wrong, at least I got to plug some pics if I am wrong!
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First one, yes, that is what I mean, except that the dominant chunk of it remains in the picture, whereas a good bit of the crossing signal is gone. Second one, that is just freaky, no matter how you crop it!

Third one, no, that is just simple framing. In my book!

When I consider the crossing signal image, I think of things like portraits of people where half the face is cut off, that sort of thing. You've cropped off half of the two red lights facing the camera and most of the crossbuck.
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Point taken, but if the portrait is of someone that isn't the best to look at, wouldn't cropping some of the head out look better? I am an ass.

I really didn't want to crop out the crossing signal especially the crossbuck but my two main points of interest were just to close together. It give it a different unexpected look. I guess you will have to just use that photo in your photo critique blog!

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I'm not complaining, just commenting!!!

Tight crops and chopping-off crops are just compositional styles. It works for some images, not for others, in some situations, not in others, etc. I don't have a great sense of how it works for RR shots, because I haven't seen it very often.

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I might just do that. Non-standard crops is something of interest.
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perhaps too much of a silhoutte? then again, i dont know if that is possible
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Why did you cut off the crossing signal?
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Why did you cut off the crossing signal?
As said before, then there would be to main subjects to close together and it blows out rule of thirds unless cropped like Loyd suggested but I went a different route. Also, view my rejections because they all had the crossing signal in, but didn't have the right look. I liked one of them but oh well.
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As said before, then there would be to main subjects to close together and it blows out rule of thirds unless cropped like Loyd suggested but I went a different route. Also, view my rejections because they all had the crossing signal in, but didn't have the right look. I liked one of them but oh well.
Makes sense. I was just curious.
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Tight crops and chopping-off crops are just compositional styles. It works for some images, not for others, in some situations, not in others, etc. I don't have a great sense of how it works for RR shots, because I haven't seen it very often.
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