Old 05-18-2005, 02:29 AM   #1
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This photo has been rejected for bad cropping. Any advice? I like it how it is, and there aren't any other sunset shots of Amtrak at Dalies in New Mexico.

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Old 05-18-2005, 02:42 AM   #2
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Any advice? I like it how it is, and there aren't any other sunset shots of Amtrak at Dalies in New Mexico.
There's too much "dead space" in front of the train (the bottom half of the photo). The composition is decent, but it probably would've been better if the train was a little farther into that curve. You may have to crop it a little tighter to eliminate the space in front. Then again, there's always the appeal link...
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Old 05-18-2005, 02:48 AM   #3
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I agree. It's a great shot, but there is too much dead space on the bottom.
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Old 05-18-2005, 03:22 AM   #4
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I find that curves can be tricky. Sometimes I cut off the second or third engine, trying to make sure I got the cars following . . . Or I do like this one, practice knowing the problems . . . you will be ok.
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Old 05-18-2005, 03:42 AM   #5
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For me the bottom half of the photo adds to the scene, with the rails and the sidelit roadbed and road leading the viewer into the scene. But I'm not the one making the choices here. Thanks for the suggestions.

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Old 05-18-2005, 04:57 AM   #6
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Very nice shot. I guess you can appeal it, but I wouldn't crop it any closer. The scrub grass and dirt road add to the shot. The side lighting and curve make the shot, and allowing the train to progress further into the curve whould have had you shooting the dark side of the loco. Showing some of the world our trains run through is as important as the train, not every shot has to be a close cropped shot of a loco or a grand vista. IMO, that scenic shots like this are rejected is a shortfall of the site, not the photographer.
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Old 05-18-2005, 02:11 PM   #7
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You COULD crop it at the bottom and then at the left to keep the aspect ratio OK, but that would ruin the symetry of the shot. The rails and train make a parabola which is nicely centered in the shot with the locomotive nearly at the apex.

Symetry and shape trump "make the locomotive big" cropping every time, IMHO.

But, my opinion and $0.99 will get you a fruit cup at Wendy's.

So, if you want the shot uploaded, you'll have to go with the "make the locomotive big" cropping.
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Old 05-18-2005, 04:12 PM   #8
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good shot but as the other members said, too much "dead" space in the front
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