Old 06-07-2005, 08:44 PM   #1
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Question Bad Lighting!?!?!

I went out for two hours, perfect sky, perfect sun, perfect exposure (for the most pat)....... Took lots of pics, several trains.... NOTHING MADE IT.

You've got to be kidding. Check these out:

Reason for Rejection: Poor lighting (The angle of the sunlight is too high, a
common problem in the summer months of year on mid-day shots.)
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreject.php?id=133965

Reason for Rejection: Bad color (not enough color depth or too much color
saturation)
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreject.php?id=133976

Reason for Rejection: Bad angle
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreject.php?id=133968

Reason for Rejection: Poor lighting (The angle of the sunlight is too high, a
common problem in the summer months of year on mid-day shots.)
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreject.php?id=133969

Reason for Rejection: Poor lighting (The angle of the sunlight is too high, a
common problem in the summer months of year on mid-day shots.)
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreject.php?id=133963

Reason for Rejection: Poor lighting (The angle of the sunlight is too high, a
common problem in the summer months of year on mid-day shots.)
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreject.php?id=133964

I have a bunch more that I feel are decent shots but I'm probably just going to keep em. Any ideas about these? I think this is ludicrous.

Same thing yesterday:

Reason for Rejection: Bad color (not enough color depth or too much color
saturation)
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreject.php?id=133622

I thought I finally figured this site out a few days ago.... Almost everything I thought would make it made it........now this crap. Like I said any advice or help would be appreciated.

Thanks!

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Old 06-07-2005, 09:21 PM   #2
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http://www.railpictures.net/viewreject.php?id=133965
Agreed - Dirty image as well.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreject.php?id=133976
Agreed - Also, why are you using a flash?

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreject.php?id=133968
I would say appeal this one but it needs some color and contrast work.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreject.php?id=133969
Poor cropping and bad color as well

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreject.php?id=133963
Agreed - Using a flash again? The image quality isn't great on this one either.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreject.php?id=133964
Agreed - very little if any light on the trucks

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreject.php?id=133622
Color/Contrast/Image Quality again

I'm not sure what kind of camera you are using but it seems to be leaving each image with a yellowish-tint. Also, as the crappy light of summer approaches, try to keep those high-sun shots for your personal collection.
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Old 06-07-2005, 09:59 PM   #3
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Wow, I never realized the shadows on the trucks. Thanks for the advice. I guess for midday stuff the only good angle would be a nose shot or from above then? The only one I got on today was with that:
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=108818

I need to stop railfanning during the day and get myself a job. Then I can get good pics once I get off and buy a Rebel XT with a sweet lense after a few days, not this Cybershot piece of crap I have. With perfect lighting and close up it works like a charm (has 5.1 mp), but not in this summer crap.

I guess I'll try some more shots after 5 or so(I hear we have a CP/CP/SOO/UP/WC consist coming this evening!!). The last time I went out about 5 I got 5 or 6 on here, now it makes sense. I'm guessing this time of year the best times to take pics are then from 8-10:30 AM and 3:30-8 PM, mindful of shadows?


I guess I'll work on the couple with the color/contrasts problems and toast the rest. Well, anyways thanks for the advice, I have no right to get upset after I think about it, it all makes perfect sense.

Thanks,
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Old 06-08-2005, 12:16 AM   #4
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Wow, that's pretty sad. All of those are fine shots. One is a little grainy and a couple a bit tinted, but the lighting is fine on all of them. Don't let RP screw with your photography.
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Old 06-08-2005, 01:48 AM   #5
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Gee, I often don't agree with the screeners or RP's acceptance standards, but this is really over the top. The only statement by CS that I can agree with is the slight yellow tint on some of the shots, and that may be pollen in the air, or at least corrected in the computer. On my monitor the images are crisp, well framed and interesting. The shadows on the trucks in the shots that show the trucks do not, IMO, distract for the images. The seven photos being discussed are all worthy of the RP database.
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Old 06-08-2005, 03:28 AM   #6
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Wow, I never realized the shadows on the trucks. Thanks for the advice. I guess for midday stuff the only good angle would be a nose shot or from above then? The only one I got on today was with that:
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=108818

I need to stop railfanning during the day and get myself a job. Then I can get good pics once I get off and buy a Rebel XT with a sweet lense after a few days, not this Cybershot piece of crap I have. With perfect lighting and close up it works like a charm (has 5.1 mp), but not in this summer crap.

I guess I'll try some more shots after 5 or so(I hear we have a CP/CP/SOO/UP/WC consist coming this evening!!). The last time I went out about 5 I got 5 or 6 on here, now it makes sense. I'm guessing this time of year the best times to take pics are then from 8-10:30 AM and 3:30-8 PM, mindful of shadows?


I guess I'll work on the couple with the color/contrasts problems and toast the rest. Well, anyways thanks for the advice, I have no right to get upset after I think about it, it all makes perfect sense.

Thanks,
Greg

Don't knock that Cybershot-I use the 7.2 megapix version of that and it's great for its capabilities. Just make sure you set it to its lowest ISO, use full manual and shoot within those parameters. High ISO will cause graininess. I don't have the $$$ for SLR either... want one bad also! If you have Photoshop try autolevel function first to fix the tint and go from there.

Lighting is lighting... doesn't matter what camera you have. Don't let anyone dictate your style or when you shoot. Do it for yourself only, not this or any other site. Submit your best stuff here and keep the attitude of 'if it gets on here, great" If not, I've still got a good shot I enjoy.' These are all good photos... they can all be fixed up in post processing easily. And don't 'toast the rest' if you mean the delete key. Unless a pic is really terrible, I save them all.

FWIW, I can't find work for lookin' and I go during the day also. That's when the area shortline(s) run, period. Also, check out my stuff... not a plug but anything shot in 2005 is with the Cybershot DSCP200 and post processed in Photoshop. This image: http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=91192 was shot by my nephew with the same camera as yours. (I'd suggest sizing your shots at 1024X768 also for maximum impact.)

Keep at it!

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Old 06-08-2005, 07:26 AM   #7
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Well, you have to like the straightforward feedback from Chris. Personally, I think you have some nice shots but you might want to try something like Adobe Photoshop Album 2.0 Starter Addition. I know there are other posts on image editing programs, but the color correction tool would improve the color deal, and you can download it from Adobe for free.

"... and get myself a job." - Always good advice. Seriously, don't stop shooting pics between 10:15 AM and 4:15PM during the summer months, and don't stop shooting pics of your local hangout or hotspot because they don't get accepted here! Just don't submit those kind of pics here...

Would you post a picture of your favorite vehicular device with the wheels in the shadows? Of course not! Same deal with the locomotive and it's trucks, dark is not good. But your first picture of the NS C39-8 looks decent, kind of harsh getting rejected. If it is a digital camera, what's dirty, the locomotive? Not on a railroad, especially the Norfolk Southern.

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Seriously, don't stop shooting pics between 10:15 AM and 4:15PM during the summer months

Exactly. Go find a superelevated curve that turns away from the sun so the trucks have good sunlight...

And, yes, it doesn't matter what type of camera you have; if the light is no good, you're SOL...
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Don't let anyone dictate your style or when you shoot. Do it for yourself only, not this or any other site.
These are words to live by. Shoot for yourself, not for the sake of getting accepted here. If you do that, you'll become a one trick pony. It is nice having your work accepted here, or in any type of edited/screened publication, but it really shouldn't be your life goal. Shoot what and when it makes you happy. If the powers that be here at RP.net accept them, then that's just the icing on the cake.

But that's just me...your mileage may vary...

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These are words to live by. Shoot for yourself, not for the sake of getting accepted here. If you do that, you'll become a one trick pony. It is nice having your work accepted here, or in any type of edited/screened publication, but it really shouldn't be your life goal. Shoot what and when it makes you happy. If the powers that be here at RP.net accept them, then that's just the icing on the cake.

But that's just me...your mileage may vary...

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