Old 12-31-2007, 05:06 AM   #1
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Gday All

Hope you can help, I submitted this photograph of a Fireman on the footplate of a steam locomotive today that has been regected for Poor Esthetic Quality:

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=294044300

What do you think? Should I get one of the other exposures with the Fireman in a different position etc., or appeal this one?

I also uploaded this photograph at the same time of the driver which was accepted:
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Old 12-31-2007, 05:09 AM   #2
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I kinda like that shot, but if you have other shots with the fireman in a different position, maybe give one of those a try. The only thing I could think of would be that you can't see his face. Maybe if you have one with his face visible, try that. Again, I like the rejected photo as well as the one that was accepted.

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Old 12-31-2007, 05:20 AM   #3
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I think the issue with the rejcted photo is that you are too tight on the fireman. It's hard to locate oneself within the cab. (Just my thought... could be wrong.)
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I think the issue with the rejcted photo is that you are too tight on the fireman. It's hard to locate oneself within the cab. (Just my thought... could be wrong.)
I agree, plus, if I recall correctly, fireman shots here tend to have the shovel outside of the firebox so one can see the coal going in and more of the fire inside.
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It appears that you are using a very wide angle lens, and since his arm is close to you, it appears too large. A little less WA, maybe step back a little (if possible).
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Very nice photo. The blur of the scenery passing by and the shovel in motion, combined with the fire in the firebox and the rugged fireman nearly perfectly exemplify working a steam loco.

IMHO, You can “if” a photo to death, “if” you had caught the fireman’s face, “if” you had pulled back to show more of the cab, “if” this or that. You have a great spontaneous shot of a real person firing a steam loco. I have no problem seeing exactly what is going on here, hot, hard work.

I like the image.

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Old 01-01-2008, 10:53 PM   #7
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Jim - The picture was rejected and he was asking us for help - Charles

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Old 01-02-2008, 06:24 AM   #8
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Thanks for all the replies so far guys, when I get a spare moment or two I might have a look to see about uploading one of the other exposures I got of the fireman whilst I was in the cab.

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maybe step back a little (if possible).
I wasn't really willing to take a step back, I know I can't fly Hehehe

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Very nice photo. The blur of the scenery passing by and the shovel in motion, combined with the fire in the firebox and the rugged fireman nearly perfectly exemplify working a steam loco.

IMHO, You can “if” a photo to death, “if” you had caught the fireman’s face, “if” you had pulled back to show more of the cab, “if” this or that. You have a great spontaneous shot of a real person firing a steam loco. I have no problem seeing exactly what is going on here, hot, hard work.

I like the image.

Jim
Thanks Jim, that's what I thought too! I quite like the rejected shot, as it shows the real action and hard work that goes into being a steam locomotive fireman, even if we were only going 30km/h!
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