Old 06-27-2005, 09:12 PM   #1
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Got this shot rejected about 3 times now for Bad Cropping plus an appeal rejection. trying to avoid the dreaded "(High Sun)" rejection this photo was taken from a bridge by the Amtrak Depot in Birmingham. I included the historic Sloss Furnace in the top left of the photo to show location. I also avoided putting the train in the middle of the photo breaking one of the major rules of photography.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreject.php?id=140398

Is there anything i can do without getting rid of the Sloss Furnace and without putting the train in the middle to save this shot?

Thanks for any help,
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Old 06-27-2005, 10:09 PM   #2
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The photo is too busy. And each grouping of items clutter and draw attention away from each other.

The bridges detract from the train.

The power poles moves the eye away from the train, and up to the top. But the poles also diminish the emphasis you wanted on the furnace. The stacks are pretty far away.

That may be because I don't have any knowledge of the area or the Sloss' furnaces importance.

Although, you did a good job of "avoiding any high sun" problems.
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Old 06-27-2005, 10:10 PM   #3
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I find the telephone poles a bit distracting. You had the right idea of incorporating the furnace into the photo but it just doesn't stand out enough.
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I don't get it... The loco is well-lit, and there have been a bunch of shots going up over the past few days where the trains have been secondary in the photo.

The "high sun" is BS. The only shadow on loco is caused by the negative angle curve-over of the plow. The sloss furnace in the background is a nice touch.

The only thing I can think of is the amount of foreground items that aren't of interest; parking lot bumpers, power poles, several bridges, etc. that don't add to the overall photo. The power poles obscure the furnace enough to where either you focus on the train, or have to look for the furnace.

That's the best I can come up with from an amateur's perspective. But considering a photo with a hot-rod sitting in the foreground was accepted, I don't know what to tell you.
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Old 06-27-2005, 10:16 PM   #5
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Thanks for the input guys. I didn't pay attention to the poles and I guess thats what got me. Thanks again.
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Old 06-28-2005, 12:41 AM   #6
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That's a great shot, I like it because it is busy, there's a lot to look at in that photo.
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Old 06-28-2005, 02:36 AM   #7
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I personally like the shot. It's funny, the first thing I saw was the blast furnace in the background. It has a good composition but those dang poles are in the way. Maybe if you were a little closer but I don't know if that could have been done or not.

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To be honest, I didn't even notice the blast furnace until a second look...I agree though: too much clutter...
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To be honest, I didn't even notice the blast furnace until a second look...I agree though: too much clutter...
I agree...
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