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Somebody in the WWW 08-12-2008 04:38 AM

Should I forget this shot (or how to crop)
 
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=136894075

How should this be cropped? I have a large collection of shots from this location (didn't delete a single one of them.. yet) so I have a bit of flexibility, but it doesn't seem obvious how to do it.

Is this kind of angle with only a tiny bit of train and plenty of Escarpment/Ocean do-able on here? I should go back with a better zoom.

ottergoose 08-12-2008 04:47 AM

I think you need to cut off a bit of that fabulous looking beach on the bottom.

I wish the train were a bit more obvious - it blends in there very well.

Somebody in the WWW 08-12-2008 12:31 PM

Got a second Bad Cropping rejection.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=648918661

Also had a shot of a coal train (different angle) rejected for Subject Too Far Away. I suspect this spot is probably no good unless you have a very big zoom and can go in close enough to make the train the sole focus of the image.

Darryl Rule 08-12-2008 12:48 PM

I would appeal the subject too far away. There was a shot on here recently where the train is 7 miles away. We'd have to see the shot in question, but that seems a little strange after some of the 3 headlight shots that have been accepted here lately.

Somebody in the WWW 08-12-2008 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darryl Rule
We'd have to see the shot in question, but that seems a little strange after some of the 3 headlight shots that have been accepted here lately.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=924756924

Darryl Rule 08-12-2008 01:01 PM

Yea, I disagree, seeing as shots with the train far less visible have been accepted lately. And this one has much nicer scenery to look at. But that's just my opinion.

Lee Baxter 08-12-2008 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Somebody in the WWW
Got a second Bad Cropping rejection.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=648918661

Also had a shot of a coal train (different angle) rejected for Subject Too Far Away. I suspect this spot is probably no good unless you have a very big zoom and can go in close enough to make the train the sole focus of the image.

Oscar, Brooke shot this with a 70-300 kit lens, set at 75mm, not really that big a zoom. The cropping was a touch of the top and left side. I dont mind your second crop. May need a more colourful train. Regards Lee
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JRMDC 08-12-2008 01:21 PM

Quote:

after some of the 3 headlight shots that have been accepted here lately.
I think the 3 headlight shots have a stronger train presence than this shot has, actually. Not a strong presence, mind you, but a stronger one. This train just gets lost.

MichaelJ 08-15-2008 01:26 PM

I also got a bad cropping rejection and am a little bit confused.

The photo was taken in a similar context to Oscar's shot.

First reject ...
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...d=561568&key=0

So I cropped off a bit at the bottom and got this second reject ...
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...d=562015&key=0

What do you think is meant by 'bad cropping' in this instance?

JRMDC 08-15-2008 01:40 PM

Well, you have the train dead center, and while the countryside is interesting as a pattern and colors, it has no focal points. So there is too much of it.

You could go for an off-center rule of thirds horizontal approach, but I think it needs to go vertical. The countryside is actually not doing that much for the shot, even though it seems pretty - it is a bland pretty, if that makes any sense.

MichaelJ 08-15-2008 02:01 PM

Yeah, I know what you mean. My mate Pete took a vertical at this location, but I don't like it as much as my own.

[photoid=246674]

I think I'll have to go back and try my own vertical.

JRMDC 08-15-2008 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelJ
Yeah, I know what you mean. My mate Pete took a vertical at this location, but I don't like it as much as my own.

Hey, if you don't like it as much, don't shoot it! Don't change what you like just for RP.

If you want more RP uploads, of course, you can take two shots, one for you, one for the site. :)

Somebody in the WWW 08-15-2008 02:19 PM

Now that Peter has a very similar shot accepted, is there any point trying to get another shot of the same train in the same place again? I thought this was a site to showcase photos of trains, not people's individual efforts.

Although I do remember this instance..

[photoid=240647]
(555 views)
[photoid=244663]
(2,825 views & Screeners Choice)

Have to feel sorry for him there.

MichaelJ 08-15-2008 09:45 PM

At RailPictures, you win some and you lose some. Peter and I have often asked ourselves why one version was accepted over the other and never really come to a solid conclusion on any photo.

With regards to the particular example you have presented, Oscar, a number of people have commented that my version has more vibrant colour.

Somebody in the WWW 08-27-2008 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Somebody in the WWW
Is this kind of angle with only a tiny bit of train and plenty of Escarpment/Ocean do-able on here? I should go back with a better zoom.

I did, and I was successful :)

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