Old 08-12-2021, 11:04 PM   #1
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It's been a long time since I've been frustrated with a screener, but this morning's screener has me scratching my head and frankly a little angry. I'm not here to upload garbage.

These are very clearly side lit, with plenty of light on the subject, and an exposure that lights the nose as much as possible.

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Old 08-13-2021, 01:09 PM   #2
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Incredibly, this one apparently isn't backlit.

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Old 08-13-2021, 01:30 PM   #3
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On my screen, it looks a little over exposed due to intense sun and lacking some contrast. The sides of the locomotive are overly bright, so the nose appears darker than the rest of the locomotive.
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On my screen, it looks a little over exposed due to intense sun and lacking some contrast. The sides of the locomotive are overly bright, so the nose appears darker than the rest of the locomotive.

Yes, and at least on my display, all of them have too much shadow reduction and too much foreground. I think that with a little editing, all of these would be decent images. I have no idea whether the screener would accept them after such adjustments, but regardless, they can definitely be improved. I would start by fixing the crops. All of them need to have the foreground pruned back pretty significantly.
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Old 08-13-2021, 03:38 PM   #5
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Lighting aside, all three suffer from some composition issues with the subject vertically centered with dead space on the bottom. At minimum I would suggest something more closely following the ROT for these.
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John, both look a little "hot" to me, but the nose light is fine. A little haze reduction should tamp that down. Not a fan of the first one because of the bridge on the right, but the second one is good. Seems to be leaning just a bit and it could use a tighter crop, but otherwise I think it's a solid image.
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Thank you all for the constructive criticism. The lighting in Meadville proved to be very challenging, especially since they didn't make the Oil City trip in the opposite direction.

Thoughts on the photo re-do's below?
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Old 08-13-2021, 05:52 PM   #8
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I straightened and tightened it up a little more. That Alco is your primary focus, so let's make it big and bold in the frame.
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The updated edits are getting closer. The shadow reduction in the second one still looks overdone. Shadows are OK. The goal is to make it look like the eye sees it, which means you should see a fair amount of detail in the shadowed areas......but it should still look shadowed. Some editing programs have shadow reduction tools that are too harsh, IMHO. I really like Lightroom because both the Shadows and Highlights adjustments offer a much finer degree of control.

Both images still have too much foreground. See Jeff's latest post. He's going in the right direction. Ballast really doesn't add interest to your photo. It's the locomotives and the train people care about. I might even shave off more foreground than Jeff suggested.....but that's just me.
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Thanks for the advice, this one is in, time to move onto LA&L uploads! I just don't get out to do this enough anymore, Jeff Terry can verify that

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I might revisit the yard scene later, but time to move on with the ALCO Safari for now!
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Is it just me or does the accepted image look soft? The ballast on the lower left looks in focus, that near the engine does not.
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