06-01-2022, 03:57 PM
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So, we're actually going to call this backlit?
Seriously, backlit? I would legitimately like to talk to the screener on how he came to that conclusion. I'm at a loss. Thoughts?
https://www.railpictures.net/viewrej...91&key=7307192
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06-01-2022, 04:59 PM
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It's not backlit at all, but the editing is a bit over the top and the image isn't extremely sharp. So without some work you're gonna get rejected again.
You'd have an argument otherwise, considering the first place people's choice this week. I guess the voting is down to 4 or 5 people nowadays...
Loyd L.
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06-01-2022, 06:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bigbassloyd
It's not backlit at all, but the editing is a bit over the top and the image isn't extremely sharp.
Loyd L.
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Now that you mention it, I do see it's a little soft. I might just save this one for later. I just couldn't believe the "backlit" rejection. That's just lazy.
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06-02-2022, 02:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bigbassloyd
It's not backlit at all, but the editing is a bit over the top and the image isn't extremely sharp. So without some work you're gonna get rejected again.
You'd have an argument otherwise, considering the first place people's choice this week. I guess the voting is down to 4 or 5 people nowadays...
Loyd L.
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Apologies if anything in this sounds harsh, but when I clicked on the link, I instantly thought: "ugh".
I agree with Loyd's comments on the editing. The photo has a washed-out look to it. It almost looks like the file used in the edit was a JPEG vs. raw. Some of mine looked like this years ago when I shot only JPEG and edited using an earlier version of Photoshop Elements. The results often looked more like a painting than a photo. The early PSE shadow reduction tool was especially harsh. Also agree on the sharpness. Only the top front of the loco looks reasonably sharp. Everything else is really soft....almost blurry.
This is one of those shots that would have me dissecting everything that went into the image, from the camera settings to the workflow.
I can't immediately see the EXIF on this shot, but I did review some of your recent submissions and they all have a similar look. The EXIF I saw on one shot had you shooting at 1/250th, f/3.5 and ISO 100. Honestly, on most trains, I would want more than 1/250th unless it is very slow-moving. I like to be no slower than 1/400th and I prefer to be higher than that. I also like to be at f/8, just for some depth of field. Even f/5.6 would be MUCH better than 3.5. Forget about ISO 100. That's for tripod shots. On a sunny day, I am at ISO 200-400. On cloudy days it could be 400-1600, depending on how dark it is and how fast my train is running. On most reasonably current cameras, ISO 200 should be virtually indistinguishable from ISO 100. Even ISO 400 should work just fine on even the lowest-end of current cameras. If the EXIF on that one shot was representative of how you've been shooting, I think you can get your image quality up significantly, just by making some changes in the camera settings you shoot.
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06-06-2022, 04:42 PM
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I agree with the prior comments about the overall edit and possible camera settings issues. Would also add that the center composition isn't doing this image any favors. Could easily get to a more ROT comp with a slight shift to take some off the bottom and maybe the right.
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07-12-2022, 09:03 PM
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A dude with a camera
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I feel your pain, OP. Not complaining. Their site, their rules, etc. etc.
https://www.railpictures.net/viewrej...51&key=6923175
I've been getting a lot of Pickens shots in though, so it's good.
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07-12-2022, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe the Photog
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Well here I thought we had seen the last forum post but Joe comes thru.
good he mentioned his other Pickens shots, the same held true for the OP as he had a bunch of those so I couldn't really see the ????
Bob
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07-13-2022, 06:43 PM
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A dude with a camera
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RobJor
Well here I thought we had seen the last forum post but Joe comes thru.
good he mentioned his other Pickens shots, the same held true for the OP as he had a bunch of those so I couldn't really see the ????
Bob
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The forums are dead now compared to years ago. We used to have some fun here.
With the Pickens shots, I had an awesome day back in 2014 where I shot both trains. Both had two locomotives and they each other, so I was able to get all locomotives front uncouple. I was wanting to share that day with folks, but like I said I got more than a few Pickens shots in and one was Top 24 for a few hours, so that was cool But I'm not upset about the one reject I got. Just showing the OP that it happens to all of us.
Honestly, I don't always see "backlit" noses on locomotives as a bad issue. But, again, their site, their rules.
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07-14-2022, 05:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe the Photog
The forums are dead now compared to years ago. We used to have some fun here.
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There used to be a whole lot more of everything going on here.
Loyd L.
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07-14-2022, 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by bigbassloyd
There used to be a whole lot more of everything going on here.
Loyd L.
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Yes, you look back and there were often many posts on a day with a good number of view. Some interesting names also on the forum.
Too Bad - was very interesting, helpful and often amusing.
Some pretty pictures show up now but after a while??? - I tend more to places now where there is more content of interst to go with the photos.
More than just a pretty face. Bob
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07-19-2022, 12:38 PM
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The threat of being banned for disagreeing with admin on acceptance/awards of a photo certainly put a damper on discussions here outside of the general "I got this rejection and need thoughts" posts. And no idea if still true, but I knew of many people who would take months get forum accounts approved.
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