Old 04-20-2009, 04:55 PM   #1
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...but really, your thoughts. I thought it really showed the station as the L trains come and go. Well composed and cropped I thought. Too much girl I take it.
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Ohhhhhhh, I see. Centered, in focus..suuuuuure you were taking a picture of the subway...! Wink, wink, nudge, nudge!

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Old 04-20-2009, 05:04 PM   #3
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Ohhhhhhh, I see. Centered, in focus..suuuuuure you were taking a picture of the subway...! Wink, wink, nudge, nudge!

haha! I do have shots of the train in focus but that just left to much blurriness. But note, train is in the thirds location.
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I like it alot, may not be for RP though. Very nice IQ also!
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I like it alot, may not be for RP though. Very nice IQ also!
Thanks. My shots came out pretty good for hand holding and high iso's. No tripods allowed. There is actually a long story that goes with this night out, but that is for another day.
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Old 04-20-2009, 05:25 PM   #6
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I think this a fantastic image, I see it less as a chick shot and more of a shot about urban railroading, and is a nice time-capsule of our current times. Who cares what the train looks like;their are thousands of equipment images. This photo gives us the "feel" for waiting for an L train at the station. Good work.
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I know there will be foamers posting the "what train? I don't see one!" comments, but in all seriousness the only things in this photo that shout "train" to me are the illuminated rails and the headlights in the distance. Simply put it's not a bad photo, just not a "train photo" like what RP generally looks for.

Having said all that, you did a good job capturing the everyday commuter rail scene in one photo, well done.
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Old 04-20-2009, 05:42 PM   #8
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What the heck is that, er.., person standing next to the gal with the funky leggings?

Is that one of them metro-sexuals I've heard so much about lately?

And can you hunt them any 'ol time, or do you need a special permit?
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I like the photo. And, umm, I don't see any metrosexuals. In fact, I think the long hair would almost certainly rule out that possibility.
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To me, the shot would work much better without the blurry stuff on either side, esp. the people to the right.
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PCA, SC, EP, POTW, etc. etc.

In all seriousness... It's a good shot, I'm definitely a fan of it, but I just don't see it as being an image you'll see on Railpictures.

Great attempt!
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The photo has all the elements to be a good one, they are just all in the wrong place. As it is now, the whole frame is very unbalanced. The two figures feel really awkward in the middle of the frame. They also break up all the obviously lines in the photo - reflections off the rails, edge of the platform and the gradually narrowing field of view. One of those close but no cigar type shots.
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Old 04-20-2009, 08:37 PM   #13
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...but really, your thoughts. I thought it really showed the station as the L trains come and go. Well composed and cropped I thought. Too much girl I take it.
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I think it's that guy in the tie-dye shirt that makes it a PEQ.

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It's a fine shot - the others are spot on though, it ain't RP material.

See how it does on Flickr.
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It's a fine shot - the others are spot on though, it ain't RP material.
I think the real question is should it be RP material. It's clearly a train shot, as you have a train and tracks as the secondary subject. It's a good slice-of-life shot that shows the non-technical aspects of railroading. Something like this might not fly if there's a shortline train in the background, but as a big-city, urban-railroading image, it seems entirely appropriate.
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I think the real question is should it be RP material. It's clearly a train shot, as you have a train and tracks as the secondary subject. It's a good slice-of-life shot that shows the non-technical aspects of railroading. Something like this might not fly if there's a shortline train in the background, but as a big-city, urban-railroading image, it seems entirely appropriate.
I talked with several of you at CRPA about developing a site that would cater to the artsy/fartsy stuff that doesn't get accepted around here... I wonder if there'd be enough of a supply and demand for photography like that for it to be a successful site? Something with a higher ratio of PCA/SC/PoTW type shots? Perhaps with screening policy that requires more than one set of eyes to look at something before it's accepted or rejected?
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I think the real question is should it be RP material. It's clearly a train shot, as you have a train and tracks as the secondary subject. It's a good slice-of-life shot that shows the non-technical aspects of railroading. Something like this might not fly if there's a shortline train in the background, but as a big-city, urban-railroading image, it seems entirely appropriate.
Great point and exactly what I was going for. I wanted to show the train as a secondary background element. That is what it feels like when you are there. Train after train moving past you but with all the people doing there thing while they wait, they turn out to be the main element. Anyone that has been in a subway, elevated trains, and probably very busy passenger stations knows that it has a very different feel then just a smaller Amtrak station. The intercity trains really become secondary to the passengers.
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Great point and exactly what I was going for. I wanted to show the train as a secondary background element. That is what it feels like when you are there. Train after train moving past you but with all the people doing there thing while they wait, they turn out to be the main element. Anyone that has been in a subway, elevated trains, and probably very busy passenger stations knows that it has a very different feel then just a smaller Amtrak station. The intercity trains really become secondary to the passengers.
On a very conceptual level, the shot you've got here is very similar to the "tiny train in big landscape" shots that seem to be popular around here.
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I think the real question is should it be RP material.
I don't think so. When the trains start falling to second and third place in the shot, you're losing the moniker of "railroad photos" and moving into "art."

I'm not a fan of the shot. Nothing personal, but seeing a chick in some horrid stockings does nothing for me. Perhaps it would fare better at I'mCoolJustLookatMyStockings dot net...
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I'mCoolJustLookatMyStockings dot net...
Fail! I have been waiting to do that so that I can be part of the group.
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Fail! I have been waiting to do that so that I can be part of the group.
Those stockings are the very definition of 'fail.'
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Those stockings are the very definition of 'fail.'

If you think those are bad, you should have seen just 10% what I saw in 3 hours while on the L. Some very,very strange, creepy, and scary stuff. Talk about being on edge.
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Oooh, you mean you can do better than caterpillar-legs? Where are those photos?
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Oooh, you mean you can do better than caterpillar-legs? Where are those photos?

I was scared to take a few of the shots I wanted. I now just have crazy images floating in my head.
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Those stockings are the very definition of 'fail.'
That is probably the reason why they rejected the shot!

I was going to post that earlier but I didn't feel like being the one to send the thread off course (it already is now).
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